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  1. zubee zone payment crisis

    in Scams, Rip-offs, and More

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    Perhaps no longer a payment crisis but Zubee Zone remains in crisis mode; even if JB doesn't want to recognize that.

    As members leave since cash is not coming back, the owners will (and are now!) cancel subscriptions due to low activity,

    and then ZZ is placed on life support until JB mercifully pulls the plug.

     

    After all, what is the surfer's incentive to collect zubees now?  Sure, I could trade them for credits/banners/textads but I

    am already earning those while surfing to collect the coins.

     

    The best thing that came of this whole mess is that our team is planning for the future, with or without zubees.

     

    John Bell is a scammer - I have added him to my list of known scammers.

     

    I have also listed all his sites as scams - due to zubee zone.

     

    I rarely misjudge someone. I truely believed he was honest. You can read my previous posts in this thread where I defended him.

     

    With great sadness, I must admit I was wrong about John Bell. I am rarely wrong.

     

    The last time I was wrong about someone was Jon Olsen when his nerdbux.com became a scam. How long ago was that?

  8. 12second commute

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    Hi blueunicorn2

     

    I really don't think 12second commute could be called a scam, I just think the owner keeps trying

    to make it bigger and better.  He seems to have some good ideas, however, I think he could of gotten

    all his ideas together, talked to his tech and put it all together before he launched.  There have been changes

    in several programs in the recent past but that was because other things had to be changed like severs,

    payment processors etc.  So good time to make other changes as well.  And I do think all the payment

    requests from 12second commute is also part of not being able to set an amount and stick to it.

    So the members are basically paying for the upgrades.  He kept all the members updated on a consistent

    basis, however, I got the impression from the updates, there was some confusion there.

     

    We are all learning and some people figure its better to put your ideas into action so they don't disappear.

    Guess the ticks need to be worked out first before it goes live.  I consider it money lost.

    How many people haven't lost money online or bought something that turned out to be not what they thought

    it was going to be?

     

     

    Since when does "I consider it money lost". NOT equal SCAM!

  9. 12second commute

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    Hi mrclean0325

    Thanks for your knowledge.  I joined 12secondcommute in April 2013 and also paid for a Life membership. I thought the program had lots to offer, which was great.

     

    Then I paid money for Best Charter Account also which apparently failed and the money was suppose to be refunded.  Shortly after that the owner sent out emails saying they were having financial difficulties and could anyone donate.  Quite a few people did and I guess my money that was suppose to be refunded was also used for a donation.

     

    Next came the overhaul for the whole system which took several months.  Now they want to charge for new membership!

     

    There were so many different parts to the system, I thought it was amazing how many components there were.  If they had of left it alone at some point to even see if it would work maybe advertising it would of been less work for the members.

     

    I wish them well, however, I don't feel this is good business and I am not paying again.  I would rather cut my losses now.

     

    Phyllis,

     

    I know absolutely nothing about 12 second commute except what you and mrclean0325 wrote. But that is all I need to know, that is more than enough to declare the site a SCAM. How many memberships do you need in one website? You have a "Life membership" and a "Best Charter Account" and it that does not cover everything the site has to offer now and in the future, it is a SCAM. Like how many memberships do you need to buy on one website?

  12. zubee zone payment crisis

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    He converted explosivetraffic to a no payment no commission coop, basically with no notice of the pending changes.

     

    explosivetraffic, used to pay you to promote the link (at certain te's each week like he does now at trafficprofitpro), as well as you earned commissions from purchases from downline members.

     

    Now you earn nothing from downline purchases and any money earned from promoting the link (which is very unclear as to how much you earn per visit), must be used on advertising.

     

    So all money spent on that site goes to JB, nothing goes to the members.

     

    Plus, on TS, there basically is no cash and the amount of pages you have to surf as a free member to earn credits is ridiculous (all those prize pages that show up, including the forced every 5 minute raffle, do not give credit for the view), so you earn way less than the .4 per page surfed.

    I did not know this. I know you are a reliable person. THANKS for the info!

  15. zubee zone payment crisis

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    "Don't think so, ask any of the traffic exchange owners that have talked to paypal, what Paypal told them."

     

    Don't have to because most explain in their site emails and none that I recall stated it's TM's fault, but hold onto that.

     

     

    "You are wrong, this thread is about psarpit being stupid and creating this thread."

     

    Why attack psarpit personally?  I doubt he's all that stupid.  He just wants answers like we all do, and

    withdrawing cash from ZZ wouldn't hurt either.

     

    Btw, PayPal can change their minds at any time about who they do and do not conduct business with.  I guess they changed their

    mind.  Time to just move on; laying blame at someone's feet is not going to change the fact that a solution needs to be found.

     

    Tezak Traffic Power just reported they are removing the cash games so there may be at least something to my line of thinking.

     

     

    Have a wonderful day!

    Some people have to be told the same thing several times and they still don't beleive it.

     

    Jon Olson said "Fast forward to the drama of the past few weeks. PayPal has pulled the plug on an entire industry because we got lumped into the same category as certain programs that used a traffic exchange front for their online ‘opportunity’."

     

    Really sounds like he is talking about Traffic Monsoon to me.

    http://www.hitexchangenews.com/news/traffic-exchanges-need-to-die/

  16. scam

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    One tip to identify a scam. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

    Correct, and most people chase after the scams, so honest sites struggle. 

     

    Another way to tell a scam, they say on the front page thy have 4 cent clicks, you join and and find no links over $.0003

  19. zubee zone payment crisis

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    You are wrong, this thread is about psarpit being stupid and creating this thread.

     

    Easyhits.com has now been limited as well. Someone is going to say it is because they have a 5 level downline.

    Nope - paypal approved that many years ago!

    Why is Paypal even looking at traffic exchanges that they have previously approved? Why? 

    Because of Traffic Monsoon.

    Traffic Monsoon said it was a traffic exchange. Paypal processed their money.

    Then the government said Traffic Monsoon was a Ponzi. Paypal stopped processing their money.

    Now Paypal thinks traffic exchanges and related businesses are Ponzis.

    Don't think so, ask any of the traffic exchange owners that have talked to paypal, what Paypal told them.

     

    Kris Rogers says "I got an email saying they don't support its business model. I asked for more info and they said they assume r4s is a Ponzi, pyramid, mlm get rich quick scheme."

     

    If you think my explanation of Paypals behavior is wrong, then you explain it.

    How come all of a sudden, after many years of doing business with them, did Paypal decide traffic exchanges are Ponzis and decide to limit their accounts?

  20. zubee zone payment crisis

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    Really! Then why is it posted here? in "Scams - Rip-offs and More" if that is NOT what he intended? Yes they are all affected, and yes it all started with Traffic Monsoon!

     

    Let me educate you! I have been involved with GPT sites for more than 13 years. I know about Paypal first hand. I know how they think and how they operate.

     

    Go read http://kurthilliard.com/how-many-traffic-exchange-owners-lost-paypal/

     

    Read what Kris Rogers says "I got an email saying they don't support its business model. I asked for more info and they said they assume r4s is a Ponzi, pyramid, mlm get rich quick scheme." That is exactly what other traffic exchange owners say they were told as well.

     

    Now, why would PayPal think a Traffic Exchange is a  Ponzi, pyramid, mlm get rich quick scheme? Why? Because Traffic Monsoon told Paypal it was a Traffic Exchange. The government later told Paypal that Traffic Monsoon was really a Ponzi.

     

    PayPal is know to be stupid, so the only obvious answer is they can't tell the difference between a Traffic Exchange and a Ponzi, so now Paypal assumes all Traffic Exchanges are Ponzis because Traffic Monsoon was.

     

    I don't think psarpit meant to imply that ZZ is a scam.  He, like many here, are frustrated that zubees can no longer be traded for cash.  Perhaps

    this thread should had been started somewhere else.

     

    I also don't believe anyone can put all the blame on Traffic Monsoon.  All the mailers are affected too and TM never sent me an email.

     

    Perhaps owners should not had start offering $.01 for this and $0.05 for that.  Seems to me that is what PP doesn't care for.

     

    I just wish a suitable replacement is discovered soon.  Payza is not the answer as I have been waiting a week for bank account authorization

    that probably won't happen since I'm in the US.  AlertPay fiasco all over again.

  21. zubee zone payment crisis

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    I have not posted here is several days, I was so mad at finding this thread here a few days ago. I am going to explain this for everyone that does NOT know what this is all about, Traffic Monsson was a ponzi! Traffic Monsson got Paypal in trouble with the government for allowing the ponzi. Paypal does not understand why Traffic Monsson was a ponzi. Since Paypal does not understand why Traffic Monsson was a ponzi, they don't understand why traffic exchanges are not Ponzis because Traffic Monsson claimed to be a traffic exchange. 

     

    JB is a leader and not a follower. He has NOT followed the traffic exchange owner herd to Payza. Why? I am not in his head, but he might have lost some money, when Payza lost all USA customers money a few years ago. Or he might have read the recent warnings issued about Payza by Clixsense.

     

    "Payza is again having issues with accepting USA deposits as well. We've also been told that Payza is unable to process any ACH (bank withdrawal) or Payza is unable to send checks to USA customers". 

     

    There is NO Zubee Zone payment crisis!

    Zubee Zone is NOT a scam!

    JB is NOT a scammer!

    Zubee Zone payments will resume when JB finds a suitable payment processor.

     

    And shame on you psarpit for opening this thread and posting this garbage!

  23. zubee zone payment crisis

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    I have confidence that JB will come up with a long term solution and not just follow the pack to payza. Payza has issues as well

     

    Clixsense said today

     

    Members, as many of you are aware there have been issues that are out of our control with some of the payment processors we're using for cashouts.
    Neteller has stopped accepting any deposits from USA customers and Payza is again having issues with accepting USA deposits as well. We've also been told that Payza is unable to process any ACH (bank withdrawal) or Payza is unable to send checks to USA customers. This makes it nearly impossible for us to pay via these methods when we cannot deposit money to them.

    For those of you who use Tango Card there have been intermittent issues with the bitcoin processor they use (Snapcard) and frequently they run out of bitcoin. Hopefully this situation will get better with time.

    Paypal seems to be the most solid option right now so we're requesting if any of you have a Paypal account and are able to use it to please do so. We want to make sure you're paid. In the meantime we've been searching for replacements for Neteller and Payza and have contacted Skrill and Payoneer. We're also considering adding a bitcoin processor so you can cashout directly to bitcoin.

    This does not effect the monthly checks that we send. This will continue as it should.

    We will keep you updated on this as we move forward

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