Greg Wessels

Never Fear - JB is Here! Ad Master Plus is back up and running. While JB has borked Zubee Zone pretty badly in my opinion, my experience is that his sites rarely disappear. I see that this thread started yesterday and by the time I got around to surfing, the problem had already been resolved.

Well its Friday and no new and exciting changes at Zubee Zone. And as for new contests, I think JB is just holding that carrot so the remainder of users and owners don't bail on him. I'm there daily (although not surfing daily) but mostly there to see what the team is chatting about. So at least we have our teams to follow and bounce ideas off of. There really is no reason for me to collect zubees any longer as most Marketplace items are just overpriced credits and banner impressions. Only one owner other than JB has any type of upgrade listed...just more promises from JB. Even the chatter from users are questioning why on credit/banner purchases and upgrades. Personally I will purchase these items on the owners site so I know they are properly compensated. Since payments are now confirmed removed, very little benefit for users. And it appears very little benefit for site owners as well as surfing is down and the Marketplace is a joke. Once the owners leave, JB has nothing left but a hosting bill. And to think all JB had to do is start payouts once again. Sure the fees are higher but I'm willing to pay all fees from my commissions. I get to make at least something and JB plugs that hole in his sinking U.S.S Zubee Zone.

Louise is totally untrustworthy - sell a bunch of lifetime subscriptions claiming a 'Valentines Day Special' and then sell the site. But at least if you purchase now, you will save yourself "50 - 70 %".

Thanks for the TS update Ajay. It appears to me that it is only a matter of time, if not already, before all of JB's sites remove the withdrawal option. JB certainly is on a roll...on making bad business decisions.

If JB sticks to the current marketplace plan then Zubee Zone will surely die a slow agonizing death. The marketplace items are for the most part less than desirable, especially when you take into account the zubee conversion rate for the item. It is only a matter of time until most other owners that have stuck around to this point just give up - the value for them is too low. Also, where is Traffic Profit Pro's silver coin? Seems to be missing and not even the placeholder is there. If the owner of ZZ is removing coins from his other sites (perhaps his subscription didn't go through ) then why would other owners pay monthly for them. I'm very interested to see how many fewer contest tickets are claimed this time compared to the last diamond contest. According to our team chart, currently there are only 26 sites where free members can claim diamonds. That total balloons to 35 sites when purchases and upgrades are included.

I agree with what you stated Darren but there are exceptions when a site seems a good lifetime candidate. Currently High Hits is running a lifetime, or at least I have been getting emails about it. This is one I would NOT pick up because Laura (site owner) has basically given the reins to Louise (partner) who I trust no longer. When Louise owned Hits Booster Pro, I put in a payment request that went unanswered for many months or possibly a year or more. I contacted admin several times via support ticket, site admin contact, and even FB; all without a single response. And my request was not an isolated incident. I have found a few surfers with the same problem and I wasn't even looking. In fact, I thought Louise was out of the TE game since she sold HBP and the joint TE she had with Laura. And now a couple months after that last site's sale Louise starts to run High Hits while Laura is busy with other projects. Louise has proven to me to be unreliable at best. Btw, both High Hits and Hits Booster Pro have been around for many years so we are not talking newbie owners here. The KRM sites are also currently running lifetime upgrades if you get the itch. These sites have survived the test of time (and PP): Dragon Surf, Tezak Traffic Power, Traffic Splash, and Fast Easy Traffic. Not sure how long they will offer them, perhaps just a Valentines Day special.

Traffic Swirl tokens were the only valuable exchange for me. Tokens can be exchanged for upgrades and advertising, as Allen stated, and they are also valuable to offer others for joining your downline is whatever program you wish. If cash is your aim, purchase cash chests with your tokens. You only receive $.01 per chest, and while the conversion rate of zubees to tokens is ridiculous in JB's favor, at least its something.

I did not receive such an email and I still cannot log in. Just one in a sea of TE's I belong to so really not a problem.

I know of one member that went to PayPal with this issue. She purchased a lifetime subscription (I believe) and James shut down the site the very next day...wiped out everything. PayPal actually found in James' favor. Not sure how they came up with that decision - threw a dart at the wall or something.

Did James clean the database again? I can't login this time around, not there is really reason to with no zubees. But then the same can be said for a great portion of sites that used to participate in Zubee Zone. James did state he would be back once his disability check cleared and here he is for round 3 (that I know of).

I agree that cryptocurrency will not end soon but don't understand the relationship to Zubee Zone. JB said no so that's it. As far as TE's fading, not a chance. They were around many years before ZZ and will be here as long as people want to advertise to as close to free as possible. Same goes for safelists/viral mailers. Missed out - sitting at 49.7M presently and only increasing. Haven't surfed in a week but still claim login and mailer coins. To show how bad ZZ is now, I spent a whole 28 minutes yesterday claiming coins and ended up #10 for the day. Yes, I have a decent bonus (~400 or so) but that just goes to show that few people are even trying these days. I don't get it either. One excuse after another with JB. I thought the whole point of him getting his Payza account verified was so payments could begin again. Apparently only for HIS payments. When JB states "people will always come and go" I'm pretty sure he is referring to lose a few - gain a few, not the mass exodus ZZ seems to be experiencing. Not just users either. I see a lot of owners bailing but not many (any?!) new owners to replace them. Without the owners, ZZ is dead. My "please of picking up coins" is about to shift from zubees (no value) to btc (much but fluctuating value). I'm blessed to be on a team that is well versed on this also. I see this 'upgrade' carrot as just another ruse to keep users collecting. Well, until all owners are gone anyway. How many millions of zubees for this upgrade and how long will this take to collect? The prices for credits are already ridiculous so imagine how many it will take for an upgrade. One owner has already voiced her concerns around the marketplace issue. Maybe its just me, but it seems every action JB takes is all about HIS pocketbook with no regard for the future. Watching how this ZZ mess is playing out, if you are not a member of one of JB's other sites, would you join any of them? I'm not so sure I would seeing how shifty JB has been on ZZ. I'm not seeing a whole lot of credibility as of late, which is unfortunate, as I thought JB was one of the owners I could trust based on my past experience with him.

Not sure what crytocurrency has to do with Zubee Zone. As I see it, John can pay members but chooses not to pay the fees.

Perhaps no longer a payment crisis but Zubee Zone remains in crisis mode; even if JB doesn't want to recognize that. As members leave since cash is not coming back, the owners will (and are now!) cancel subscriptions due to low activity, and then ZZ is placed on life support until JB mercifully pulls the plug. After all, what is the surfer's incentive to collect zubees now? Sure, I could trade them for credits/banners/textads but I am already earning those while surfing to collect the coins. The best thing that came of this whole mess is that our team is planning for the future, with or without zubees.

I'm not sure I would put much faith is someone's splash page on a TE. Nothing beats your own due diligence. As for bitcoin, Allen Tan led me onto http://www.badbitcoin.org/. Lots of btc scams out there but there are a few good guys too.

Thanks for the info Allen. I'm sure it will be useful for others looking into it. I do hope your friend gets his money back. Also thanks for the badbitcoin.org link. Disturbing that the 'good' sites are so few while the 'bad' sites page seems to scroll forever.

Clare, I tested the Preview Pane today and I think I'll keep it. It seemed I scrolled a lot less using Preview Pane. Sorry, mouse gestures also work with consecutive emails so no help there but here is the link to the mouse gesture app I use: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/gmail-mouse-gestures/aaokajckoheafemlmjacklidohljgkgo?utm_source=chrome-app-launcher-info-dialog

Allen, so quick to judge. lol Just because the site states "With Profit Glitch, there is nothing to download, install or do. All you need to do is activate your Profit Glitch System and start earning" doesn't necessarily mean its a scam. With some research I discovered PG is a Bitcoin miner. First issue for me: Please don't fall for the 'free to join' crap, the cost for account activation is $97 minimum; the more you pay the higher return earned (as I understand). Secondly, one reviewer stated there is a 30-day refund policy but support is nonexistent. Not sure how you get your refund when noone is home. Could be for you, just not for me.

I have never seen this Clare, thanks. I use mouse gestures to move to the next email (also really quick) but I'll test Preview Pane tomorrow to see which I prefer.

At least the money goes to a teamie

James purchased all those expenses and you see how well that worked out. lol I guess I look at it differently. I see this as Laura and Louise providing an opportunity for an entrepreneur to start a business by taking ownership of an established TE without all the usual start-up fees. Sure, Skyscraper Surf could end up with someone just trying to make a dollar but I'm hoping for someone that wants to build a business instead.

Sounds like this site is done. If James' funds are so tight he has to wait for his Vet check to pay the $29.95 hosting every month then he will have this problem every month. Asking members to pay to keep your site online is not going to work...plus what's their incentive? Perhaps its time to let this one go. Either sell it or raffle it like Laura and Louise are doing for Skyscraper Surf. Check out http://skyscrapersurf.com/win-a-te.html to see what I'm rambling about.

I don't think it's for sale Brenton. As I recall, James stated he was shutting it down until his gov't check comes in (or something to that verbage). What confuses me is the Go Daddy parked page. Perhaps there is a way to show this page while still keeping your site intact. I followed Clare and Deborah's advice; no $$ spent here so all I'm out is the zubee coins, which James doesn't have anymore anyway. Perhaps it was unwise to rile up John Bell.

I simply love all the yahoo comments whenever Google does something that disrupts the norm. The Google Search Engine has only one job - to provide the searcher with the best experience by providing what they are looking for. The SSL certificate change is just another step to rid the rankings of questionable sites( as stated by MrClean). Personally, I don't see the big deal as my hosting comes with a shared ssl certificate; perhaps not the greatest option but probably fulfills Google's requirement. If you think Google is so EVIL (no sharks with lasers here) then use Bing or DogPile or some other SE; their are plenty of choices.

James often mentions the apps and games costing him more than what the site brings in. As I have shown previously, as long as Stellar Hits surfer counter app is installed correctly, I have surfed alone or with one other person which equates to few surfers per day use. I, for one, would not spend money where the cost/benefit ratio appears to be so low. I have to wonder how many users he would have if it not for the Zubee Zone community jumpstarting his site. Now that zubees are gone (thank-you JB for finally rectifying that situation), how many surfers have stuck around?

I could not get past the unbearably long surf timer @ EasyHits4U, but if you can they seem to add the most people to their TE each week meaning more fresh eyeballs for your program(s). Affiliate Funnel, I believe, tracks this along with other variables to determine the top TE's. Lot of great TE's mentioned.