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I would say use as many safelists as you have time for.

 

Track your results.

 

If a safelist isn't performing as well as the others drop it... or if keep using it if you have the time.

I follow the recommendation posted here because I find it to be the best  recommendation available. I am a Worldprofit dealer and the mantra heard their all  the time is "Promote, Promote, Promote". The reasoning being that you are relying on the numbers more than the strength of the material you are using. The material might be the best thing available but unless people see your promo they will never act on it.

By the way Jerry has some terrific material available regarding this, He has two e-books available one is: "Safelist Marketing Tactics" available at http://www.safelisttactics.com/?rid=13306  and the other is: :Autoresponder Profit System" available at http://www.autoresponderprofitsystem.com/?rid=8904  I have found these to be well worth reading.

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I use Safelists all the time and use tools which make my interaction with them faster and more efficient.

One tool I use is SL Genie which allows me to read emails, collect credits, and send my promo materials.

The admin at SL Genie has started removing Safelists from his tool based on his perception that a Safelist is under performing. I personally do not agree with his criteria for removal, in some cases it seems to be arbitrary. I can understand if the safelist doesn't work  in SL Genie but in some cases he seems to have just decided that a safelist in no good. My feeling is that a tool of this nature should have any and all safelists it can and that if a safelist is bead that decision should be made by me the user not by him as the admin. I think I should be the one to decide a safelist is no good. I feel that SL Genie should be in the business of helping to build up safelists and help me build my business and any opinion of a safelist being food or bad is not for SL Genie to make

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I use Safelists all the time and use tools which make my interaction with them faster and more efficient.

One tool I use is SL Genie which allows me to read emails, collect credits, and send my promo materials.

The admin at SL Genie has started removing Safelists from his tool based on his perception that a Safelist is under performing. I personally do not agree with his criteria for removal, in some cases it seems to be arbitrary. I can understand if the safelist doesn't work  in SL Genie but in some cases he seems to have just decided that a safelist in no good. My feeling is that a tool of this nature should have any and all safelists it can and that if a safelist is bead that decision should be made by me the user not by him as the admin. I think I should be the one to decide a safelist is no good. I feel that SL Genie should be in the business of helping to build up safelists and help me build my business and any opinion of a safelist being food or bad is not for SL Genie to make

 

I don't use SL Genie, but I would agree with you that a tool that is meant to be used globally for safelists should allow any safelists to be used with it instead of being restrictive.. it would be better for their business too I would think.

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Garrett, I do agree, I use slgenie and it is a great tool, you do have the option of using the custom feature where you can add any mailer you choose.. This is what I have done.. and I have way more custom mailers than what is actually within slgenie list of mailers they have stored within the system.

 

hope that helps.. if you need any help setting up custom mailers let me know

 

Diane

I have tried to use that area of SL Genie and have had little success. Are you able to read in emails in the SL you have set up. To me that would be the best use of this area but I have not been able to do that. I will look into that closer beause SL Genie is a great tool but being able to use it with other SL than the ones in the list is something I would like to do. I plan to try that area again and will let you knkow what I find there. Thanks

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I have tried to use that area of SL Genie and have had little success. Are you able to read in emails in the SL you have set up. To me that would be the best use of this area but I have not been able to do that. I will look into that closer beause SL Genie is a great tool but being able to use it with other SL than the ones in the list is something I would like to do. I plan to try that area again and will let you knkow what I find there. Thanks

Garrett, I can import emails if  I setup the custom area correctly.. for some reason not all will import and I am not sure why..  but many will.. Nick will not help me with this at slgenie.. he doesn't like the custom field .. but we need it more than ever now that he is limiting mailers.. you just have to have the settings correctly.. and if you need help with it  you can find me on skype too (diane.mumm)  

 

and yes I can read mails that are setup in custom field..  

Anything is possible if you are consistent and put yourself out there.. 

Diane Mumm

http://MountainHighMailer.com

http://MountainHighMailer.info

 

 

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I am setting these up now abd will soon see if they work for me.

I think he is wrong in removing all these SLs. I think that if SL Genie is approached correctly SLs will get more traffic, I use it as a soucr of joining SLs and building my business but if he keeps removing SLs from the primary area the SLs will loose. I don't think as the admin of SL genie he should be making these kind of decisions. He has removed a a lot of good SLs along with the SLs he considers bad and it seems he is making his decisions poorly. When he removes a SL he affects how I use it and slows my processes down. I ahave found that if a SL is in SL Genie I can iterative with it more efficiently and as such build my business,

By the way have you visited the question of making your Mountain High Mailer a SL in SL Genie.

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I am setting these up now abd will soon see if they work for me.

I think he is wrong in removing all these SLs. I think that if SL Genie is approached correctly SLs will get more traffic, I use it as a soucr of joining SLs and building my business but if he keeps removing SLs from the primary area the SLs will loose. I don't think as the admin of SL genie he should be making these kind of decisions. He has removed a a lot of good SLs along with the SLs he considers bad and it seems he is making his decisions poorly. When he removes a SL he affects how I use it and slows my processes down. I ahave found that if a SL is in SL Genie I can iterative with it more efficiently and as such build my business,

By the way have you visited the question of making your Mountain High Mailer a SL in SL Genie.

Hi Garrett, I did a long time ago.. He said he wasn't adding anymore new ones.. I said your loss.. I have talked with the owner of this program a few times.. he is not very connected anymore as he has other things going on.. but sometimes it is easier to talk to the guy who developed the program..

Anything is possible if you are consistent and put yourself out there.. 

Diane Mumm

http://MountainHighMailer.com

http://MountainHighMailer.info

 

 

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Hi Garrett, I did a long time ago.. He said he wasn't adding anymore new ones.. I said your loss.. I have talked with the owner of this program a few times.. he is not very connected anymore as he has other things going on.. but sometimes it is easier to talk to the guy who developed the program..

I agree, I have spent some time with him trying to fix a problem and have found him to be strong in his opinions.

I see SL Genie as a tool that allows me to visit SLs quickly and do what I need to do easily, but I don;t think he sees SL Genie that way. HE looks at SLs and thinks that he needs to monitor the CTR rates and if they don't perform he removes them from SL Genie, I think if he is not carefull he will remove all the SLs that are currently there and make SL Genie a tool that no one will want. That is a shame sine I think SL Genie can be a powerful tool worth having.

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I agree, I have spent some time with him trying to fix a problem and have found him to be strong in his opinions.

I see SL Genie as a tool that allows me to visit SLs quickly and do what I need to do easily, but I don;t think he sees SL Genie that way. HE looks at SLs and thinks that he needs to monitor the CTR rates and if they don't perform he removes them from SL Genie, I think if he is not carefull he will remove all the SLs that are currently there and make SL Genie a tool that no one will want. That is a shame sine I think SL Genie can be a powerful tool worth having.

Yes, I used to promote slgenie quite a bit.. This tool manages safelists very well.. it is a misunderstood tool .. but most that actually use will never go without it.. 

Anything is possible if you are consistent and put yourself out there.. 

Diane Mumm

http://MountainHighMailer.com

http://MountainHighMailer.info

 

 

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The admin of SL genie has removed more SLs from SL Genie. Personally I think this is wrong but I don't run the site. I am finding Mailer Ninja and Referral Frenzy to be great and it looks like they are a good replacement to SL Genie. I think the Admin is very short sited, I think he should focus on building SL Genie instead of Cutting it back, these others will replace SL Genie and SL Genie will die the way he is handling it.
 

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I use Referral Frenzy & Mailer Ninja but I've not tried SL Genie. Does it include many sites that are not in either Referral Frenzy or Mailer Ninja?

Hi Margot, there is many of the same.. I should say there used to be , but he is cleaning house and getting rid of many.. I use referral frenzy and slgenie.. slgenie you can add mailers that are not in the program itself under custom .. slgenie is changing I still use it but I love referral frenzy too , Marty is great and is very helpful .. 

 

SLgenie  manages and organizes mailers very well.. it is quite unique and very useful tool.. 

Anything is possible if you are consistent and put yourself out there.. 

Diane Mumm

http://MountainHighMailer.com

http://MountainHighMailer.info

 

 

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there are a few. The key to SL Genie is not so much the mailing as the ability to read and control use of SLs. SLs are more than mailers, there are banners, text ads and other things Mailer Ninja and Refferal Frenzy don't work with. Also SL Genie has Reader function which allows me to read promo messages more effecientially and collect credits. SL Genie also has a list build function with a commission of from 50% to 75%.

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Garrett, I see Nick is adding a few new ones to slgenie.... so maybe I will try and see if he wants to add mine.. :)  Definitely helps to get new members to the mailers.. I emailed him see what happens... 

Anything is possible if you are consistent and put yourself out there.. 

Diane Mumm

http://MountainHighMailer.com

http://MountainHighMailer.info

 

 

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Garrett, I see Nick is adding a few new ones to slgenie.... so maybe I will try and see if he wants to add mine.. :)  Definitely helps to get new members to the mailers.. I emailed him see what happens... 

Wish you luck in this. He told me that he has talked to programmers about problems they create which make working with SL Genie difficult. He has tried to communicate with them and they seem to ignore him. I think he knows what he is trying to communicate but he comes across such that they ignore him.

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Wish you luck in this. He told me that he has talked to programmers about problems they create which make working with SL Genie difficult. He has tried to communicate with them and they seem to ignore him. I think he knows what he is trying to communicate but he comes across such that they ignore him.

 

I think the owner (Stanil Dobrev)  of this program is the only one that can make the changes.. as far as improving its performance or the tech programming side of creating  the program..

Anything is possible if you are consistent and put yourself out there.. 

Diane Mumm

http://MountainHighMailer.com

http://MountainHighMailer.info

 

 

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