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#1 Margot Lawrence

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 03:16 PM

Does MATTHEW GRAVES owe you money? If so, you're not alone!

 

Once a respected online marketing "guru", Matthew has turned to the dark side in the last couple of years, and now owes large amounts of money to large numbers of people.

 

His "Site Partners" scheme (or should I say scam?) appears to be a dead duck - I haven't managed to find a single partner who has received their earnings from the sites on which they were supposed to be partners, and the Facebook group for partners has had all members & posts removed - probably because all the posts were from people wondering when (if?) they would receive their earnings.

 

Matthew doesn't have a proper support ticket system - a "red flag" in itself - and doesn't reply to emails from people asking for the money they're owed.

 

Ironically, his mailers are well designed & have a good number of responsive members, so they are still worth joining - just don't bother paying for an upgrade, this man doesn't deserve any more of other people's money.


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#2 Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 04:08 PM

I saw a poll about this and it didnt look good, not sure where it was. And another post about this in this forum.

 

What is weird is that every list site is the same script on every site it looks like?

He should have left his orginial sites alone and not clone each one from 1 thing.

The orginial sites was what the internet marketing world used to consist of, well most of it, before cloning became some sort of fad or expectation.


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#3 Darren Olander

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:16 PM

I saw a poll about this and it didnt look good, not sure where it was. And another post about this in this forum.

 

What is weird is that every list site is the same script on every site it looks like?

He should have left his orginial sites alone and not clone each one from 1 thing.

The orginial sites was what the internet marketing world used to consist of, well most of it, before cloning became some sort of fad or expectation.

 

He has owed me money for years, I don't even try, but will also never promote his sites again... and I would have been quite valuable to keep around.

 

I also agree about original sites, I LOVE them and wish there were more of them, it is a bummer to see all these clones... even if you use the same script.. try to create something new that stands out instead of another me too site. But anyway, results matter, so if someone is using a clone and I can get good advertising results on it.. that's fine with me too I guess :P


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#4 Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 11:56 PM

Well I guess I look at it in 2 ways:

(1) people catch on and get it so they quit buying the very same thing repeatedly and/or

(2) they quit them as time goes on as the first handful of clones does the job, so if you buy the last ones - waste of money because activity dies on the last ones.

 

I agree, you are valuable. Anyone who promotes and gets signups, or even TRIES to do so, is valuable.

 

And... I'm shocked. I really am about no payouts or support tickets. And the amount of people complaining about: John Bell, Timtech people, Robert Puddy (script commissions), Mathew Graves, Adtroopers owner... and I know there are more... but forget.

 

And the giant Mass Exit for 2 years now on numerous little sites.


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#5 Kevin J Timothy

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:34 PM

Well this explains A LOT. For the past handful of years I always thought his sites were suspect. Hits not being delivered, and sketchy commissions. Thanks for this update!


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Posted 12 July 2018 - 05:48 PM

He has owed me money for years, I don't even try, but will also never promote his sites again... and I would have been quite valuable to keep around.

 

I also agree about original sites, I LOVE them and wish there were more of them, it is a bummer to see all these clones... even if you use the same script.. try to create something new that stands out instead of another me too site. But anyway, results matter, so if someone is using a clone and I can get good advertising results on it.. that's fine with me too I guess :P

 

 

One thing for sure, his sites get traffic


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 01:17 PM

Yes...yes he does owe me several hundred.

 

It turns out that Matthew has selective Alzheimer's when he owes people money.


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Posted 13 July 2018 - 11:58 PM

have a subscription for 10 solos at Supercharded Solo Ads,last month money was taken but account not credited with 10 solos,no response to support emails,how do you cancel the subscription ? don't see any option


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 01:06 AM

have a subscription for 10 solos at Supercharded Solo Ads,last month money was taken but account not credited with 10 solos,no response to support emails,how do you cancel the subscription ? don't see any option

Login into Supercharged Solos, click "Account" and then click "Remove Your Account".


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 07:33 AM

Login into Supercharged Solos, click "Account" and then click "Remove Your Account".

thanks,just did that


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 11:46 AM

I'm confused here. Does Matthew Graves own adtroopers too? Can someone recommend a responsive mailing list?


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:13 PM

I'm confused here. Does Matthew Graves own adtroopers too? Can someone recommend a responsive mailing list?

No Bo Tipton does...however he has been a ghost lately.

 

All of Darren's safelists are very responsive.


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:15 PM

thanks,just did that

Another thing try reaching out to Matt here https://www.facebook.com/websbest


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Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:16 PM

No Bo Tipton does...however he has been a ghost lately.

 

All of Darren's safelists are very responsive.

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 12:24 PM

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Posted 15 July 2018 - 02:18 PM

Glad I found this! 

 

I had just purchased some solo ads from 
SuperChargedSoloAds recently and had a question.  I could only find 

a support email address and I did not get a reply.  

 

Thanks for the information.

 


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 04:43 AM

The sites are down pending a server move. I've just paused a lot of banners from the Your Viral Banner rotator site from displaying in our mailers because their links are currently broken. A lot of banner impression credits are going to go to waste all over the show unfortunately. I hope at least for the sake of people using this, that the sites are back up soon.

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 05:28 PM

There is a thing called risk in which everybody knows when the money is put on the table. Learn by your mistakes and move on.


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#19 Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 05:52 PM

There is a thing called risk in which everybody knows when the money is put on the table. Learn by your mistakes and move on.

 

So... basically those who don't get their commissions should just shut up (so the next guy doesn't get his either and it keeps going on)?

But this particulair post is a cut of the profits on sites, buying into a share of them, and not getting those.

I've been hearing about both (commissions and the profit share parts)


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 08:40 PM

So... basically those who don't get their commissions should just shut up (so the next guy doesn't get his either and it keeps going on)?

But this particulair post is a cut of the profits on sites, buying into a share of them, and not getting those.

I've been hearing about both (commissions and the profit share parts)

 

I think it is really important to call these things out, so it is in the public.. people can do a google search and look up someone's reputation pretty easily. It helps people know who to avoid.


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