Troy Wray

The whole Payza situation sucked for a long time for me in the UK. From the moment they became Payza I couldn't do anything except pay outgoing subscriptions from the balance I had. But I couldn't accept money so all my AlertPay incoming subscriptions (mostly VitalViralPro) stopped - significant loss of income, and when my balance was gone, all my outgoing AlertPay/Payza subs for programs failed because they wouldn't even let me pay funds in to keep my subs going. They suck and I hope those with funds trapped get them back. I doubt I'll ever be tempted to use them again.

Not really sure what 'get paid to advertise' means. If you mean a program where you can advertise and you get paid when you get referrals that upgrade then that's not really get paid to advertise, is it. Downline builders are far from a waste of time. They've generated in excess of 6 million free credits for me and members that use the one I co-own with Paul Kinder have generated huge number of referrals and the consequent free credits. It's good sense normally to promote a DLB rather than a specific program. Better still to promote yourself and your own list.

I agree that it's the main service where you should pay for quality and quality varies. What I dislike about aweber is that the model of paying for the total number of subscribers you have just doesn't make sense. If I don't mail in a month, I've been charged just for them holding some names in a database. The billing should be based on some flat rate plus a price per mail. That way, people that like to not mail their list too often are not penalized. Maybe with other flat rate plans for those that mail frequently. Oh and you have to be sure to clear out unsubscribes cause they charge for those too. Regarding people being on multiple campaigns, yes it sucks that that costs more too. Another argument for the billing being proportional to total mails sent. Amazon services get it right in the main. I wonder if they plan an autoresponder - that WOULD be something to look out for I reckon. Some more competition. Most of awebers features aren't needed by most people.