William Walters

Smart url is popular tracking service right now but there are quite a few others. Like Kenny said more results depends on the site and ad copy, stale emails from the site and stale splash pages don't get the response fresh eye grabbing capture page gets. You are marketing to people who are burnt out on the hard sell. Matthew Graves will tell you these first contact mails on safelists are to build a list; a tribe that know,like, and trust you, then you sell to your list.

I still get emails from David Wood asking me to come back so the site must be still be recruiting. I joined the downline of a "guru" who swore he would place 6 in my downline but after a year and joining him in several other programs "to support our recruiting efforts", with no results, no downline, I decided I had chosen the wrong guru once again. When the "guru" borrowed money then refused to pay it back I severed ties with him and his programs. I'm sure there are good leaders and teams but I have not found them and now I'm a bit gun-shy to join another. The first guru is at least successful in GDI but he was just looking to win a recruiting contest.

Thank's Darren! I'll take all the help I can get.

I suppose I'm only average at 10 - 12 hours a day. Maybe a few more on the weekend and a few less weekdays plus a full time job on the railroad. Like someone else mentioned I have probably joined too many sites and spread myself too thin but I am trying to weed out those that work from those that don't. Safelists, traffic exchanges, PTC, solo ads, but I'm still in the red each month.

I have gotten good results from LinkGrand as well.