John Lederer

I agree!!

UPDATE*********** Matthew FINALLY responded! He refunded me. (I told him "not to ignore my message or I will be contacting my credit card company"). Oddly enough; he said nothing to me accept "all is done"! I told him "it's been told to me that he rarely responds to questions and that he owes several people commissions". You'd think he had a comment to say on that, but he said nothing:-)

Still trying to contact this nut. NO response! Tried the following: Skype Facebook messenger Matthew Graves FB timeline His "support" email FOUR times I will be contacting my credit card company for a refund. I will also be dropping ALL his safelists I'm in. This guy boasts how hes trying to help others online---I'm convinced THAT'S his marketing ploy. After reading your posts here...I'm convinced he's a scammer.

I've tried several times to get ahold of the owner (Matthew Graves) of Your Viral Banners (YVB). NO response!! I've tried his "support" email three times, Facebook messenger and Skyped him. His YVB tool is a great one, but if this clown refuses to respond to support tickets; it's most likely he won't pay commissions either! Anybody know how to contact him????

Jane's programs are always pricey. I've never purchased anything from her yet. The more it costs the harder it is to sell. (a rule to live by lol)

I joined them last year and then got a refund. I did get a lot of optins...but NO SIGN UPS! What bothered me the most, was the ADDED a $17 a month affiliate FEE!!! So, you were paying $47 a month for "traffic", plus an additional $17 a month for the "right" to sell traffic token to other suckers. The fee there was a red flag for me. You DON'T charge me a fee for the "right" to promote YOUR program FOR YOU!

I wouldn't waste my time on Herculist. They are a NON credit based mailer (meaning there is no reason to earn credits there). Referral Frenzy? YOU BET!! AWESOME TOOL! Been with them for years now and know all about them!

Keep us posted Clare! Thanks :-)

I dropped them years ago. Had tons of "dead credits" and zero results.

I sent you a PM awhile ago :-)

Thanks William!

I agree! I'm not exactly sure just how the webring works; but I LOVE her mailer 1profitRing!!

I agree too!

Paid via credit card as well as paypal debit card. I am in the process of a charge back via my credit card company.

GREAT advice!!!

You're very welcome! :-)

I had to threaten Zukul "support" in order to get refunded on SOME of the money they owe me. I am not done with them and I intend to get the additional $550 yet! I was told (but can't prove) that Jeremy Rush's FAMILY runs his "support team". No wonder it's hard to get refunds!

Yes I agree about Mark Fox! I had just upgraded in another mailer of his 2 months before his mailers closed. I got him to refund me.

I must say I agree with you. ....

WE GOT AN UPDATE ON Wednesday, Dec 14th from the owner of 12SC!! Looks like a good update & 12SC is back on the radar!!

I agree it's (at this point anyway) that it's not a scam. My big issue: we never hear anything from the owner! He was SUPPOSED to launch the new system on November 11th. I wrote him a few days after that time lapsed & he said he would "be contacting all of us on Monday or Tuesday, after he contacts his programmers"...........This was a MONTH ago.

It appears that the owner has deserted it's members. Still NO update on the "new system". You mentioned "you will still promote" this? Why promote this to people when the owner is not around to update it's current members? Would you want to join a program (with outdated tools) where the owner said "we will begin the new system on November 11th..." Yet, we've heard zero from him since! I have stopped promoting 12SC (in consideration for others). I never cared for the tools anyway.

I joined a company called Zukul on October 25th 2015. In April of 2016 they then launched ZAN. (Zukul Ad Network) is a rev share JOKE. JEREMY RUSH is the owner of both programs! DO NOT waste your time or money! MANY of us members there are very angry. I have been owed commissions in Zukul since August. I invested (wasted) $500 in ZAN when they launched (stole) in April. Jeremy's "support" team are liars and con artists! I was banned from their FB group because I warned others to wake up. MANY top team members have left. Some told me to get out too. Just a heads up.......save your money! Jeremy is now launching Zukul gold! I WISH there was something we could do to demand our money back OR at least file a complaint online?? He lives in the UK.

I joined 12SC a few in September (2016). Haven't been in that long. I did earn about $130 and only paid the $27 for one year. As mentioned above; lots have changed recently! I am no longer promoting this until I SEE the new system. I don't care much for some of the tools there and am .......waiting. I contacted the owner a couple weeks ago because he has sent out a VERY LONG update awhile back and said the new system was going to launch November 11th......... When he never updated us after the 11th, I emailed him. He told me he would "update us on Monday or Tuesday next week". That was over a week ago! Nothing since. I don't recall him asking for donations though. Must of been before I was a member, otherwise I would of NEVER joined. Hope this helps.

Doesn't Dropbox JUST store data for their customers?? I am not aware they do anything beyond cloud storage. Have been a happy customer there many years.