Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K

Has anyone see this video and all the other people commenting about the same thing happening to everyone else here?

I recognize some of them too! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iaJ4EFMq7c

Now people know its not just them though, and they arent alone. I COULD put alot more about this, but I think its enough on my end.

BTW, did you just put in a support ticket about BTC? I just want to make sure its you and will do it when I come back online tomorrow

 Unfortunatly I Was Conned By Him In His Scam It Starts Like This

 

 In His Fake Charity Scams

 

 He Was Selling A 13,000+ Downline LifeTime And A Premium Lifetime Membership For $200

 In WebizInsider To Help A Women Called Shirley Who Supposidly Had Cancer

 I Brought A Downline And Premium So All Was Fine For A While But Then Webizinsider Was

 Relaunched I Lost All My Downline I Was Down To 20 Members It Was To Late To Get My Money

 Back So He Offered Another Premium Membership To Compinsate Months When By Excuses

 Were Made So I Decided To Tell Him What A Thief And Scammer He Is I Speak My Mind If I Been

 Conned I Will Call A Person A Thief Scammer I Tell It How It Is I'm Not One For Liking

 For People Losing There PayPal Accounts But With Him I Cheered And Clapped

Oh yeah... I remember that. It was to several different people then it stopped. I thought it was a month, so it was months went by? And then tell you that you just didnt like how much time went by before you got the upgrade?

This just isnt right and its gone on for years it seems

i really admire you and you know that, it's not a satire lol, i really do. you're a good woman, since you returned good for evil they done to you.

you just given the guy a free ads as they bad publicity is still bad publicity everywhere and even here on online. at least he can search this thread on google and at least let him defend his name by replying on this thread and straighten out this messed done on his websites and done on his reputation if he wanted to..

I'm flattered.. that you say that. but I dont think this type of bad publicity gets 'em free advertising, quite fits the situation here tho. This is different. LOL if anyone is getting free advertising, its this forum! hehehe

....ALOT has changed over the past year. I would log into all those sites and see which are still alive

Ooops.... My mistake. I will get that off the list above. Thanks for letting me know!!

Well... good you didnt because people are opening forum posts and even taking polls of not getting paid.

I've been in business for 21 years, have a larger membership base, program my own sites (20 of them), design them, answer support tickets, do the server admin, answer facebook, answer emails, promote and do my payouts by hand. I don't have autoresponders to send my emails, I do them by hand. So its possible to wear many hats and get it done.

Ok, several have asked which sites they are, and I said I would post them here, in this forum....

unlockyourlist
quickstartcoach
unlockyourwealthpotential
yourviralbanners
hotlistmailer (NOT hotspotmailer - I own the hotspotmailer one)
legendsmailer
yourvirallist
toptiertraffic
websbestmailer
websbesttraffic
splashpagetraffic
webbizinsider
SocialMessageConnect
InstantProfitMailer
WebsBestMailer
100PercentMailer
splittestmailer
TopTierMailer
100percenttraffic
superchargedsoloads
whatworks4me
yoursuccessadvantage
EmailMarketingMasters
InstantProfitMailer
10XMailer
secretlaunchteam
websbestmarketing
guaranteedadprofit
autofreeleads
ysa10
ysa1
ysa5

allactivemailer

splashpagesurfer

yourviraltraffic.com

yourviralmailer.com

He absolutely fell off a couple of years ago, I had been promoting through his  mailers for many years until He began replicating His sites.

He also ripped me off on my owed commissions a few times, until I got frustrated and had to put some Ummph into my communications with 

Him. He then refunded me my owed monies. Even still, I joined a few of his NEW mailers, total waste of time and effort. It's sad that people such

as Matthew seem to think that their reputation and standing in this community of online marketers won't eventually catch on to this type of behavior.

 

"Seems The Games Over For Him!!

 

http://aioptk.com/1hfm

Thats what I think too, that its 2-3 years ago and then 19 replicated copies of the same site suddenly. And WAY WAY over inflated member counts.

So far, the biggest commissions owed and then not paid is over $200 (someone told me this)

don't worry you have my support, i stopped using his mailers long time ago and he has no customer support system in place not like you have you can see your logs of emails and he does not reply at all his websites are buggy.

Thank you and that's another thing people keep saying "bugs or offline alot"

 

hmmm....so this is where the eggs end up hatching...

 

ever heard of the financial term "overtrading"?

 

No investment should be guaranteed instead they should be

conditioned (that's why you have exception clauses in contracts)

and though the managers of the Your Viral Network may very well

have good intentions the outcome for the expected income needed

to pay back investors did not materialize so it's not necessarily a 

scam but an unfulfilled promised that might end up in perpetuity.

 

This isnt someone new, and this is just 1 person (no managers) and he has been around since 2004 I think. So, he just isn't doing it period (paying commissions owed on sales - the sale comes in and the 25% or whatever isnt paid even though the money is there). This is different than promising a share of the profits and sell more than 4 shares, or paying $850 on a $500 invested.

Kevin Brown here,...I am a blind marketing, don't know how many of us are active,...I mean marketers that are totally blind.

 

If you know any thing about blindness, then you know that internet marketing is a real challenge,...then if you can't see you monitor,...You know that compounds the effort...

 

Now enter Mathew Graves...

 

His sites are actually accessible for blind users,...so I dug right in.

 

Then I started to pay for upgrades,...Thats when I reallized that he wasn't going to pay me,...I am just a little guy in the internet marketing world, but I love doing it.

I guess because I love the challenge,...but until Mary Ann Myers posted that headsup,...I am now sure that he is not going to pay me...

Thanks Mary Ann for that info...

I didn't know you were blind? At least I dont think I did? But, there are many blind or partially blind or use something called a Reader on sites. On one of my sites I explain that is why I dont have matching images or numbers to match or colors because of this. Is it easier for bots? Yes, but I have special bot catchers and take a look every once awhile. So it's worth it so people who are blind or partially, can use the sites too.

Anyway...... I truly thought the majority knew this stuff was going on.

Now I'm glad to have posted it. The response is HUGE and still getting emails, support tickets, and on facebook telling me their stories of no response, not getting paid, not getting the promised profits on investments, being ignored, ect

Not only he is not paying people, and not telling people he lost his paypal (now he cant pay them as he promised 1 and a half times profit on the "investment") but he is telling others AND listing on his sites that Profitslion is number 1 worst source to use and #1goldmine is 2nd, and he even threw in my Pangea.

I mean, he is personally telling people this too... which is outrageous. They emailed me and told me he was doing this.

Profitslion and #1goldmine are 4-5 figure sites with repeat buyers or subscribers. If it were true, that wouldnt happen. People wouldnt repeatedly buy and/or keep their subscriptions.

At least I pay people and dont make ponzi promises. I feel sorry for those who bought his replicated script too.

His "network" is BANNED on ALL of my sites now.

UPDATE SINCE I WROTE THAT ABOVE...

I'm getting a lot of responses from people and in facebook of how they haven't been getting paid what they are owed. It's alot worse than I knew! And are glad I'm doing this. It really is just a handful of selected people who are getting paid.TWO people said they thought he was a good guy but changed (they listed different timeframes)

Thanks Admin for the help. I can confirm from my friend that the account had been upgraded. I am grateful for getting yourself to do this even when you should be resting. I pray you get better on time. We need you fully back. Maybe i should fast for 40 Days, 40 Nights  and pray you get better on time.

 

I was not informed we have to wait for 48 Hours to get upgrade approved. If i had know, i think we would have just send support ticket and wait for your response.

 

It's good i posted this here because others that needs urgent upgrade will know what to do when they are also waiting for their own upgrades. I posted this here with the hope someone that had upgraded can share how long he or she waited to get the upgrade done.

 

From what i know, the Bitcoin used for payment, was set to get the payment completed within One Hour. That is, One Hour Priority was used when making the Bitcoin Payment so that you can get it on time and get the upgrade done.  This was done so that the Upgrade can be completed within the One Hour.

 

  I hope you get back on time. Thanks once again for the support.

I'm sorry for the confusion, and, if I seemed grumpy at all. Thank you and I'm trying to get better such as rest and ALOT of extra vitamins haha but today got everyone updated and answered.

Yes I know what you mean lol I think some act as if they were kidnapped and locked away in far away land. hehehehe

But, I'm still sick and its driving me nuts not getting anything done and just laying on the couch.

So checking things on & off and tryinnggg to do some work.

Its just a cold, but one of those kind that wont let you sleep and cant think right.

Personally I find the Bitcoin and Crypto world too complicated. It's just so unreal and hard to trust. Believe it has all been set up as another business world. Will stay with Pay Pal and Solid Trust Pay.Thanks Downliner for your report.

I freakin' hate paypal. They throw everyone under the bus because they knowingly transacted much of the ONE BILLION in transactions for traffic monsoon and scramble to cover their @ss. The SEC will be doing clawback on fee's they received for it, I was told. That's what, 40 million right there? And it doesnt count the offshoot money generated because of it.

IF any class actions can be still done, it'll be the 4th or 5th one they lose on I am sure.

BTC is not complicated. Instead of an email address, they issue you a string of numbers/letters to send or receive to. Cash it out to your bank.

Zelle is easy to use.

24 hours is not long to wait. At all. It said 48 hrs or open a support ticket. No one here, at this forum, would know the details of your order.

It was through BTC and it was not instant.

I had to be online to upgrade it, and the return page told them this, it said up to 48 hours or open a support ticket at my site.

I have been sick, really sick, all week and have not been online.

It has been done already, because I came online for a few minutes to check things.

Doesn't Maryanne have more sites than that but the difference is she actually pays commissions rather than making excuses not to pay?

 

Also in the earlier posts someone said if they cancelled the $500 chargeback on Paypal Matthew would send them $750. Does that even make sense? Another red flag with that post was the member was told to send the money to a paypal account in someone elses name. I can understand the angle of not wanting to have a bad record but do you really think he would've sent the money rather than just use the fact that you cancelled the paypal dispute admitting error on your side meaning paypal would not honour the same dispute twice?

 

My philosophy is instead of launching loads of bad sites you should launch one good site and work on that until it works the way you want it to. Then you can move to addressing another form of traffic with another site. 

 

That's why my sites TEPD and VMPD came years after TDL. 

I own about the same amount of sites now. Thats because I merged some into Pangea #1 and the Pangea #2

ABout the earlier post on closing the dispute ticket, then a payment would be sent... once you close a dispute ticket at Paypal... you can not open another again. So... they would have to trust it would be sent because can not dispute again.

But, a little birdie told me he has lost his last Paypal account last week. And it was because the programs, "investing $1000 for a guaranteed $1500" is a ponzi.

So those waiting to be paid through Paypal - are out of luck.

Oh thats bad, you should have been at least paid out before being booted !? Especially that much. LOL I would have paid you first, then booted you just to get it done and over with. Otherwise, it looks like an exuse to do theft.

But I guess he is saying false things about ProfitsLion now.

But I can't help it if people don't want to signup to his programs, I dont control that!? I am not God. I cant provide everything, but the opportunity to advertise them.

I know for a fact they are signing up to other programs on Profitslion  though, so I guess that just makes him look bad if he wants to -basically- keep telling people no one wants to signup to his 18th copy of a site.

Some think he's sick and just making as much money before going offline. So I guess no need to cancel subscriptions, do payouts, answer support ,ect

I have had many many MANY tell me nothing gets resolved that way either (facebook) for over two years now.

you are a humble woman, with all your skills,

you can create a whole new facebook lol

That's weird that you say that because I tell my daughter that "I could program a new facebook, but it would bore me to death..." (before you posted that)

i like the traffic, signups and sales it generates for me, not to mention the business leads i can take home

[sIGNUP HERE!]

You might be the number fan of Profitslion hahahaha :-)

If someone isnt paying commissions for MONTHS but the site is still up then you arent going to get paid. I dont know who he is, but seems like another on the list. I have been hearing about this person, mathew graves and john bell for months to the past couple years - and even longer now. Many, many owners are not paying anymore it seems like.

It pisses me off even more today than it did 6 months ago, a year ago, 2 years ago... because me and a load of other owners pay their dues to people, despite paypal and whatever problems. Plus answer support tickets.

And I see so many promoting and buying from them still... still.

They dont deserve it as they dont do the work to deserve the time & money affiliates put into what they do! (aka members)

No, absolutely nothing to do with it - we arent that big.

If anything in our arena had any pushup on it, it would be the btc ponzi programs, but even they are not that big compared to entire countries of people, governments, hackers, more questionables (they do it with cash too btw), the billionaires, the princes and and whatever else buying and selling it.

They are way way way WAY bigger in revenue than a traffic exchange or a safelist... combined.

Love how the btc is going by the way. I predicted this current upswing back in January right before opening 1easybitcoin to get more involved because of 1) Paypal purge, btc perfect to replace them ..and 2) figured it bottomed around 3300 (give or take). Whoever started collecting it, back then, has nearly 4x their money now.

I also think it will top around 22 to 25 grand. Others think 30 grand. This is in the next 1 to 6 months. But, well, lets see!