Glen Palo Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 It's gotten to the point where it is rare that I take an upgrade lifetime or not. And trying to pick a winner out of all that have started recently is difficult. I am sticking with the proven owners who have stood the test of time. (Maryanne M., Darren O., Marty P., and a few others). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
market101 Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I used to do lifetime upgrades, but have been burned too many times. I have decided to stick with free and occasional small upgrades. I guess it really depends on how much risk you are comfortable with! Quote *************************************************************There are two ways to face the future. One way iswith apprehension; the other is with anticipation .************************************************************* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captkirk Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 As long as I'm surfing the net, I will be buying lifetime upgrades. The opportunity of seeing and finding great looking programs seem endless! Quote Tommie Kirkland (Captkirk) Here... SUBMIT ADS 4 FREE - I SIGNED-UP 433+ MEMBERS SINCE JUNE 29, 2022 - 100% FREE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Duarte Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 I think lifetime upgrades gives you better control of your spendings! Specially if you are a member on many sites. Quote http://thedreamlifestyleforyou.com/images/468x60-a6.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasond188 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Go (Invest) with the ones that have been there for a long time and not the new ones. Quote http://bestanimations.com/Signs&Shapes/Arrows/animated-blue-arrow-down.gif Email 1000 Random Members Daily Without CreditsLog in everyday and submit your ad to 1000 randommembers for free. NO CREDITS REQUIRED. Increaseyour reach with credits and hercublurbs. My #1 Source For Free Advertising On AutopilotReliable traffic service online for over 7 years. 2 ways to start generating traffic on autopilot along withseveral FREE marketing and lead generation tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buildtraffic200 Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 I am always on the lookout for Lifetime Upgrades. Because I have a vested interest, it gives me more of an incentive to promote that site. I have only got 4 lifetime upgrades so far but I prefer them to monthly and yearly upgrades. Quote Feel free to connect with me here: WealthyAffiliate.com Need more leads on social media? This free training will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
market101 Posted December 24, 2017 Report Share Posted December 24, 2017 I have joined many lifetime upgrades over the years. Some of them, the ones that are still in business, I still use. However, I have not seen any better results than I do with free sites. One of the things I look at when deciding whether or not to keep advertising on any particular site is: ARE THEY GROWING"? If they are stagnant or losing members, I am likely to reach the conclusion that they are no longer viable. Just my two cents. Quote *************************************************************There are two ways to face the future. One way iswith apprehension; the other is with anticipation .************************************************************* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulserban Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 A lifetime upgrade costs less than if you pay monthly and get rid of recurrent payments.Plus, if you take it in a pre-launch it is cheapper than normal price. Quote http://www.1001nightsmailer.com - a paid membership site which allows free members too! http://www.pizzasafelistmailer.com - my first safelist mailer site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnana Posted March 4, 2019 Report Share Posted March 4, 2019 I'm glad you like it ! ! That site wont go anywhere I like it too. But I wish that I could read all the ads not just the recent 20 or 30 ads. Quote Get Guaranteed Traffic at Ads Messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 I like it too. But I wish that I could read all the ads not just the recent 20 or 30 ads. I just made the list longer over there :-) gnana 1 Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted March 6, 2019 Report Share Posted March 6, 2019 I meant, it lists 70 now, if you see this let me know if that works better :-) Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sincharde Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Lifetime deal is the best for the buyer but maybe a loss to the person that brought the buyer in. But the one-time commission received should be enough for the sponsor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 ?? Its not a loss for the sponsor... they get more faster, then a buck or two drawn out over months, if it lasts that long. Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnana Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 I meant, it lists 70 now, if you see this let me know if that works better :-) Yeah, definitely! Did you know that recently I have received a sign up & $7 sale from Hotspotmailer? On topic: If you look back and see how many sites that offered lifetime upgrades are around and how many sites have disappeared, you will understand the worth of lifetime upgrades. To a customer, a 3 year or a 5 year upgrade does not look appealing but the term 'lifetime upgrade' does. But in reality most sites does not even last 3 years. Does that mean you should not go for lifetime upgrades? No. By all means, take the lifetime upgrades whenever it is offered by trusted admin. But at other sites, take the short term upgrades. Just my 2 satoshis FWIW. Quote Get Guaranteed Traffic at Ads Messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 Yeah, definitely! Did you know that recently I have received a sign up & $7 sale from Hotspotmailer? On topic: If you look back and see how many sites that offered lifetime upgrades are around and how many sites have disappeared, you will understand the worth of lifetime upgrades. To a customer, a 3 year or a 5 year upgrade does not look appealing but the term 'lifetime upgrade' does. But in reality most sites does not even last 3 years. Does that mean you should not go for lifetime upgrades? No. By all means, take the lifetime upgrades whenever it is offered by trusted admin. But at other sites, take the short term upgrades. Just my 2 satoshis FWIW. Oh good :-) Really glad to hear that too. I've been doing little changes here and there recently to make it better, or hopefully better. Well... your 2 Satoshis.. are smart and has a good point there. Yeah, if they havent been around for many many years (the owners) then a monthly subscription is a safe bet. Otherwise, lifetimes are a safe bet AND if the owner is still "involved" like you see them around forums, facebook or emailing members, or somewhere "alive" (not just occassionaly sending an email about their 'friend just opened a site' or a 'christmas sale' email now and then.. that is a signal for lack of interest ). Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captkirk Posted March 21, 2019 Report Share Posted March 21, 2019 I meant, it lists 70 now, if you see this let me know if that works better :-) Hi Maryanne, I like that the list now have 70 sites to be viewed which mean members can generate more credits to post their ads. Were there any special reason why you removed the links from showing on the homepage? I liked that feature... Hotspotmailer is still one of my favorites and I use it daily to post ads 24/7 365(6) days a year since 2009! Quote Tommie Kirkland (Captkirk) Here... SUBMIT ADS 4 FREE - I SIGNED-UP 433+ MEMBERS SINCE JUNE 29, 2022 - 100% FREE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clare Bowen Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 About lifetime upgrades. Although I sold lifetime upgrades at the launch of Harmony Mails, we haven't since, and we don't in our other mailers. We are constantly deactivating inactive members, and so, even though we have many more members, member mails are only going out to around 1500-2000. There's a vast difference between an upgrade where members can practically reach the entire active membership daily in a mailer without any effort, and an upgrade where the member emails 5000 daily, but gets enough monthly credits/sends to only mail 5 or 6 times. Our upgrades are just worth a lot more than to sell them at a price that people would pay for a lifetime. Also, just my personal opinion when looking where to upgrade. I'll buy lifetime upgrades, but except in rare circumstances where the owner really makes a real effort to continue growing their sites, I pretty much accept that the sign ups from them will be few and far between the longer they're online and selling lifetime upgrades. In most cases, in my eyes, every lifetime sold in a mailer weakens the long-term effectiveness of it. gnana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Hi Maryanne, I like that the list now have 70 sites to be viewed which mean members can generate more credits to post their ads. Were there any special reason why you removed the links from showing on the homepage? I liked that feature... Hotspotmailer is still one of my favorites and I use it daily to post ads 24/7 365(6) days a year since 2009! I know! hahaha and... I had a reason but forget why exactly, it was probably reducing sql connections (server load) but since then I have them running better and got bigger ones. Sooo those "recent emails" links are back on all referral pages again Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 In most cases, in my eyes, every lifetime sold in a mailer weakens the long-term effectiveness of it. Safelists can go on and on with effectiveness - like if 5 people bought an (lifetime) upgrade and dont have to click, make sure another 10 new people come in and do. I guess, grow. Unless I misunderstood.... Because Clare, I get no sleep lately so brain is foggy! I dont even make half sense in email replies to anyone anymore!? haha Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captkirk Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 I know! hahaha and... I had a reason but forget why exactly, it was probably reducing sql connections (server load) but since then I have them running better and got bigger ones. Sooo those "recent emails" links are back on all referral pages again Hi Maryanne, That's awesome to hear! I always thought that feature gave us the competitive edge over our competitors. BTW, HSM is my #1 Mailer that I use daily and having been using since 2009 without fail. Quote Tommie Kirkland (Captkirk) Here... SUBMIT ADS 4 FREE - I SIGNED-UP 433+ MEMBERS SINCE JUNE 29, 2022 - 100% FREE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clare Bowen Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 Safelists can go on and on with effectiveness - like if 5 people bought an (lifetime) upgrade and dont have to click, make sure another 10 new people come in and do. I guess, grow. Unless I misunderstood.... Because Clare, I get no sleep lately so brain is foggy! I dont even make half sense in email replies to anyone anymore!? haha Yes, quite right Maryanne. And you make perfect sense lol, don't worry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 hehehe good :-) Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weblord Posted May 2, 2019 Report Share Posted May 2, 2019 im on a quite a few lifetime upgrades myself. it helps in the long run, to save you a lot of money. the only question to ask is, whose lifetime? yours or the owner? Quote pls read my blog | Unlimited Domains with Unlimited WebHosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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