Garrett Hutsko

I was hoping they would last but oh well

I agree with all the above, so sites do nasty things and what you are experiencing is a by product of them. I think you can get the programs noted above and they will help clear this up. On thing you could do also is uninstall FireFox then reinstall it, this may also clear y=up your problem

I would think they would give good information about the change over so that nothing would be left in the lurch. This should be a simple change over without this kind of problem.

I think you are correct but due to the fact that most are involved in trying to make a business they probably will not because theu don;t want to cause others to ignore them because of the stand they make, they want all to look favorably at them.

Make sure you have Chrome ID as your main Browser. You may have a link in a website that is causing FireFox to start. Some websites also have hidden some bad stuff, if you could ID the site that is running when FireFox Starts you may discover a link that starts FireFox.

I think ListSurfing.com is one of the bet to use.

I wish that on some of these closings that they could sell their sit instead of closing it. I am sure someone could take it and make it work.

The closest tool I have found is Mailer Ninja, the next closest tool I have found is Referral Frenzy. SL Genie is by far the best tool for use in the SL Environment. I can help you learn to use the tool if you need I have developed a set of training/instructions for use with SL Genie and I can provide them for you use if you want. Just signup in SL Genie then send me a request for these instructions and I will provide them to you.

Some that started in about the same time are still going strong and building because they are trying and succeeding.

My suggestion would be to check out Worldprofit George Kosch has build a Safelist which also has a Traffic Exchange part. It starts out with connections to the Worldprofit backing and promotions

Here's another one that has bone by by: adzskymailer

What a shame I thought this was one that was good.

The focus as I see it in this discussion is sales. I just came from a Worldprofit Bootcamp and we discuss building a business alot in these bootcamps. The main idea that is pushed is promote, promote, promote. When you promote you offer a landing page so you can capture the name and email of the person. Once you do this you build a list that you can make money from. ales come from your list not what you post to Safelists of Traffic Exchanges

Thats Anthony Morrison not Morris. These typically show him promoting his stuff and trying to get a click thru. When you try to close these you get a message which repeats up to 12 times. It seems you can click the leave all you want but to no avail until it exhausts it process then you gain back control.

I agree with most of what you said, however I feel that as a business owner I owe it to the sitres I join to help promote them myself. My reason is selfish in that if I help build the site I also build my list and business and by doing this I also build my income.

I am getting these kinds of emails again and I can focus them on the stuff being promoted about Anthony Morris and his training programs. He has material which is very sneaky because it will come up in my browser without my selecting it on purpose. These seem to come in waves and maybe even tied to his training cycles. I have counted as many as 12 pop behinds in the material being promoted by his people. I don't mind one or 2 but his are way to much and cause me much anxiety in trying to get them shut down. Please if you are promoting his material look at how you have the pop behinds set and cut them back to one or 2, PLEASE!!!!

You can also get membership sites from Worldprofit by becomming a Silver dealer there, Worldprofit has membership sites for sale.

I would recommend against a google of adfly this would put you into their areas and you will start receiving scams from them.

I have been with Worldprofit for 4 years now and one thing we learn from George is Promote, Promote, Promote, and when all else seems to be failing Promote some more. The work is worth it. I see people downing Worldprofit but having been involved on the internet since it was started back in the days of the PC Junior I have found that World Profit seems to have the correct answer. Those who don't agree seem to want something for nothing. I say to them Promote, Promote, Promote.

I agree completly, there are great site out there that have frown to huge sizes. Free Safe List Mailer for one. I use SL Genie and Referral Frenzy to do mailings and I think that all we need to do is keep on going and build our own list such that we do not have to rely on others.

One thing being ignored in the cloaking question is can you track the clicks and get stats from the clicks. Not all Link shrinking processes offer this.

If you are not willing to put in time and effort you will get no where except to spend a lot of money. Think in terms of building a list and taking from 1 to 10 years of effort then you can think in terms of making a lot of money. Any other thinking will lead to loss, failurem and despair.

I would also recommend that you connect with the people responsible for SL Genie. You can generate a list if you allow your list to be a part of SL Genie since when people join SL Genie they will also have the opportunity ot join your SL and you will see people work hard to promote your SL Because they will also work hard to increase their SL Genie membership and will develop lists in both. Garrett

Another source of a list of SafaLists is SL Genie, they have a list of almost 200+ Safelists and a process which you can use to read emails and send out promos.

I use SL Genie all the time and am running into a problem on some site within SL Genie. For those not familiar with SL Genie it is a tool which helps to control use of over 200 Safelists. On some of the sites in SL Genie I read the email and trigger the credit link. When I do the match process I get Incorrect Click which is an invalid message. The problem that I am running into is that the sites that I am trying to get credit in claim that SL Genie is the problem/cause of the problem. If that were true it should occur in all click links since this is a process that is simple and repeats over and over. SL Genie claims that this problem happens on a few sites because of the server that the site is using. I am hoping that this email will reach the proper people, I think that the SL site can change a parameter on their site which will correct this problem. SL Genie is functioning similar to FireFox, IE and CHrome and does nothing that will change the way emails are handled.