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I firmly believe in giving back, and the tax deduction sure doesn’t hurt Is it worth it? If you have a good offer then yes, definitely. You may not want to dive in this aggressively, but I have been more than able to land in the black each month with this sized ad investment. I know others that have been pro-rated into package 2 as their results scale up. The tough part is snatching up one of these packages, as they don’t become available that often (from what I’ve seen every time I login, which is daily)

I don't participate much in guru launches but I bought into this service when Ben launched it to his own list. First, I was blown away by the video training. Second, that traffic is among the best I have used in years. Of course, it's not a cheap service. I’m on the $399/mo plan but I see a nice return on this each month. The quality is excellent but I'm a little saddened by the fact that the people who need it the most probably won't be able to afford it. Plus, support gave me so many bonuses for buying the product in pre-launch I was amazed. They really over delivered. Incidentally - I dislike launches immensely. Any money I make from a launch I donate a chunk to charity. 25% of it. And I rarely recommend a launch product. So if Bens pitch resonates with you - it's a good product. Does that help? Peace,

You know, I admire people who roll up their sleeves and surf everyday. It's something at this point in my internet marketing career just can't, or rather "won't" do anymore. I don't know if it's laziness or what, but if that particular exchange offers the ability to buy credits then I would MUCH rather do that. Just to be clear though, I DO respect people who click as without the clickers, the TE concept wouldn't even work.

I recently bought the $189 lifetime upgrade at ListGrab and unfortunately the membership base isn’t growing as fast as I would have hoped.. Only downside to these pricey lifetime membership is it's always a gamble if they’ll reach high enough numbers. Being the admin’s dedication to building it as well as the affiliates dedication. One of the things that impressed me when I first joined Organic Prospects was that 70 new leads every day guaranteed sure doesn’t take long to build up. Took just 10 days to reach more people than it takes some of these new safelists to build to in their lifetime. Conversions with OP are much higher as well due to the lack of the incentive credit clicking. By all means, I’ll continue to join lists like ListGrab but its always a gamble to buy in at such a high rate.

It’s important to keep your expectations in check. I was emailed by a person this morning that has over the top expectations of making money from just one single advertising method. Sure it would be great to make 5k/mo by placing one ad but it's simply not going to happen. My expectations are extremely low for each individual advertising source I use. Some safelists charge $197/year I’m confident I won’t make money money back on, but the branding alone is arguably worth the money. Another safelist I use I bought a 2nd OTO on to mail 6000 and many months later the membership base is still hovering around 2500.

One of my downline members in OP just hit the 5 signups per week leaderboard in GDI earning him $100 by promoting to his Organic Prospects. He’s almost sold me on getting going again with GDI. I was a member quite a few years ago and even handed out a few of the dvds door to door (BIG FAIL) As far as I’ve heard from other members, GDI appears to have really slowed down in the last 7 years. Not too many people willing to pay $10/mo for a domain name they could get for $19/year. Regardless, he seems to be doing well combining GDI with Organic Prospects.

Today I noticed a bug in the mailer that I have alerted support about. For all my mailings I’ve been using 14 point font so it hasn’t been a problem, but today I tried adding my swipe in 18 point font. Everything looked fine until I added the hyperlinks and the font of the hyperlinked text shrunk to 14 point. I then selected the text and selected 18 point font again and it stayed at 14 point. It appears 14 point font is the largest you can add a link as. Not a huge deal as I’ve been getting a great response with my ads in 14 point font but regardless I have alerted support about this and I imagine it will be fixed soon.

I think I'm going to pull my banners on MAPS for while...maybe just a bit of hiatus while I allocate those funds in other places to test. I've heard from one of my downline people that Greg Chadwick is offering reasonable priced banners that get a whack load of clicks. He has a nice little network reach of a handful of sites, one being TraxAds that I'm fond of.

I too was wondering about Max Mailer Pro this past week as I wasn't receiving any credit mails from them, but not too worry as I sent out a mailing this morning no problem

This site is legit. I joined about a month ago and I think it was within the first couple weeks I made more from my prospects than the cost of my membership...all my mailers/lead sites are all in about the same price range too..$37 all the way up to $200+ I think this one is $30 but I'd have to check.. Btw half of my sales were closed by me over Skype and the other half without me doing a thing, all fully tracked (over $100 so far which isn't too bad) I'm building quite the little empire these days getting my prospects to join me on Skype and doing some impromptu conference calls lol. What I've been doing is adding my contact info to the bottom of my emails and inviting the people to join me on Skype. It's really working like a charm and something I might start trying with some of my other lists.

I've been advertising banner ads on that site off and on for a couple months. Its been generating a decent amount of hits for the price. I haven't really dug too much deeper into it other than that though.

My favorites are the Jon Nastor sites like List Joe, List Bonus, List Adventure, and Bweeble. These site have larger member bases than usual and support is good about getting back to you quickly. Those sort of things are important to me.

Interesting update to report: I posted in this thread months back reporting one particular safelist mailer that had been abandoned and just noticed my post here had been recently deleted. I also mentioned the safelist admin by name and I believe he read my post here, re-activated the safelist and contacted Marketing Checkpoint admin to have my post deleted. I don't think its a coincidence that he recently re-activated that particular safelist right after I called him out in this thread. (The site was offline for 8+ months) I think its great to keep ad site owners accountable when a lot of them charge high lifetime OTO fees but then abandon them for whatever reason shortly thereafter.

It seems that a handful of my safelists are being abandoned or not renewed by their respective admins. Here is a list of some of the latest ones that I've noted: Recipe Mailer - owned by Katrina Graham (also owner of Sea My Ads) Residual Traffic Mailer - account has been suspended for a long while Elite Viral Mailer I have tried to contact support for each of these lists but am getting no responses. Has anyone else noted this for other mailers they've bought from in the past, and to the reasons to why this happens from time to time? A lot of these I have paid out good money for lifetime memberships and am feeling kinda ripped off. Maybe we should compile a list of mailer owners who do this type of thing, to make sure no one else loses money, by paying for ad sites that might be abandoned. Thoughts?

I used to get emails promoting this product many months back, but even then I never considered using it simply because something about it didn't feel right. Yes, making money is what we all strive to do but at what cost? I myself don't want to compromise, even in the little things cause someday it may lead to bigger compromises.

All traffic exchanges are definitely not created equal Paula. I consider myself a "retired" clicker for credits. My experience in the past was primarily with Traffic Swarm but just couldn't justify the time I spent each day in hopes of maybe making a sale. I have even been told by someone in the IM industry that he himself has a team of 5 people from India, clicking full-time for credits promoting his offers alone. Can you believe that? 'gasp' I suppose since the capitalistic internet marketing world is essentially a modern day wild wild west, I shouldn't complain too much since I have the same opportunity myself to "hire" 5 Indian workers to click for me

It's tricky at times to decide on what lists to upgrade and which to pass/hold off on... Like I read on another thread, following the launch dates of reputable list owners/admins is a good start.

I like mailers over traffic exchange sites that's for sure. I am upgraded on 22 lists so far and plan to continue expanding as funds and opportunity allow. I have heard that some marketers send to over 100 every day, Wow!

Right now I try to commit to working at least a couple hours per day...promoting a couple CB sites using a variety of ad sites like mailers. Daily sending out ads for me is almost like therapy...and hopefully try and snag a few sales along the way too

I also don't like having to read a handful of ads before sending my own email (especially if I've paid good money to upgrade) Being a grown up and having to click on pizza slices and bannana peels every day is ridiculous imo lol. By the way, does anyone know what happened to the owner of Elite Viral Mailer?