Margot Lawrence

Hmm, on the one hand I'm glad to see that some people are being paid, but on the other hand I'm sad to see that Matthew is paying out commissions that have been recently earned while still owing commissions earned several years ago - obviously, the older debts should have been paid first. Donnie, don't you feel even slightly uncomfortable now that you know that the money that Matthew paid to you was, in effect, stolen from other people?

I know :-( When I started the thread, I thought that there might be some interest for a couple of weeks and that it would then tail off and the thread would die, as most other threads do. I had no idea that I'd find that Matthew Graves had ripped off so many people, in so many different ways, over the course of so many years. I don't know if Matthew is a member here, but I'm sure he must be aware of this thread. He has had 14 months to post a message defending himself, but, so far, nothing... :-(

There were originally supposed to be only four partners on each site - Matthew and 3 others - each receiving one quarter share of the site's profits. There are already more than four partners on each site, and he's advertising for more - so, even if he used new money coming in to pay the original investors (which he hasn't!), nobody would receive the one quarter share that was promised.

I can log in to some of the sites, but not all of them. On the ones where I can log in, many of the site features are missing. I assume this is because there's still some rebuilding to be done after the server problem.

Just another one to add to his ever-growing list of unfinished projects :-(

I'm in the UK too, and there are plenty of ways to make international payments - he's just avoiding paying, making excuses.

This is the facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/sitepartners/ But all the members & posts seem to have been removed - presumably for a clean start for the next batch of victims :-(

Matthew is currently advertising for new Site Partners - $500 per position https://websbest.samcart.com/products/partner-onepage And also for new coaching clients, $2,497 per year! https://websbest.samcart.com/products/quick-start-coach-inner-circle DON'T waste your money, people - you won't see a penny back :-(

Does MATTHEW GRAVES owe you money? If so, you're not alone! Once a respected online marketing "guru", Matthew has turned to the dark side in the last couple of years, and now owes large amounts of money to large numbers of people. His "Site Partners" scheme (or should I say scam?) appears to be a dead duck - I haven't managed to find a single partner who has received their earnings from the sites on which they were supposed to be partners, and the Facebook group for partners has had all members & posts removed - probably because all the posts were from people wondering when (if?) they would receive their earnings. Matthew doesn't have a proper support ticket system - a "red flag" in itself - and doesn't reply to emails from people asking for the money they're owed. Ironically, his mailers are well designed & have a good number of responsive members, so they are still worth joining - just don't bother paying for an upgrade, this man doesn't deserve any more of other people's money.

My main business is Avon. Although it is a global organisation, it operates as separate companies in all the different countries. As I'm in the UK, I can only sell to customers in the UK and I can only recruit downline team members in the UK. I've tried Google, Facebook & Bing, but the geographical targeting doesn't seem to work very well on any of those - I've had potential customers & potential representatives from all over the world contact me. If I'm getting people from other countries contacting me, it means that much of my advertising budget is being wasted because people in the wrong countries are seeing my ads. I can't tell how much money is being wasted, because I have no idea how many people in the wrong countries are seeing my ads and NOT contacting me! I hate wasting money. And I hate paying money to big corporations who promise that my ads will only be shown to people in the UK and then show my ads in Lebanon, Sweden, South Africa and Pakistan (the four most recent non-UK applications from ads supposedly shown only in the UK). So, can any of you recommend any advertising companies who do ACCURATE geographical targeting?

Tabbed browsing combined with powerful computers killed the traffic exchanges. In the 'olden days' - and yes, I'm old enough to remember - we could only surf one site at a time, so we had to actually look at the pages we were being shown while surfing. Now, with more powerful computers and tabbed browsing, we can surf twenty sites at a time, just flicking from one tab to the next and only looking at the buttons to click to collect the credits. And then we stop doing even that, because we realise that everyone else is doing the exact same thing and the credits we've collected are being used by people who are just flicking from one tab to the next and not looking at the page we're promoting... RIP traffic exchanges - you were great in your time, but your time has passed.

Its 10 Bucks - a new matrix program launched 16 August 2016. Ad Packs cost $10, plus $2 processor fee - payment through STP or Payza. Join here, take a look!

The only way to completely eliminate spam is to never give ANYBODY your email address. However, there's not much point having an email address if nobody knows it!

And the latest name for this scam is..... Boost My Online Biz :-( Apparently it's better value than a Hawaiian Pizza. Well, much as I object to the idea of pineapple on a pizza, in this case I'd go for the pizza.

I've never used Pinterest at all, so I'd be interested to see if anyone is really using it successfully to promote their business.

I use Referral Frenzy & Mailer Ninja but I've not tried SL Genie. Does it include many sites that are not in either Referral Frenzy or Mailer Ninja?

Use LibreOffice - it's free to download. Copy/paste the contents of the pdf into a LibreOffice text document, edit as necessary & then export as PDF.

Another one I'm visiting daily at the moment is Matthew Graves' Three Wins Challenge - https://www.facebook.com/groups/threewins - publicly posting my 3 daily goals helps to keep me motivated!

I always check my Gmail (and delete most of the mails!), and I make a daily visit to Referral Frenzy where I can mail to more than 80 mailers with just a couple of clicks - this saves a huge amount of the time that I used to spend on mailing!

I use PayPal a lot for my UK business and never had any problems with it. I have a Payza account but was locked out along with all other UK customers and have never used it since, and I now use STP for purchases that don't accept PayPal. STP was complicated to set up and took ages to verify, but now that I'm fully verified it's easy to use.

Split Testing is crucial, otherwise you're going to waste time/money/ad credits sending out mails that nobody reads. If you can't afford the expensive software and haven't the time & energy to do it the old-fashioned way with spreadsheets, Matthew Graves is launching a new mailer Split Test Mailer that will do all the work for you.

What sort of "proof" would you want for a scam? Screenshot of an empty PayPal account where someone has not been paid? I never believe the so-called payment proofs that so many people use in their advertising - so easy to create for someone who has spent an hour learning to use basic features of GIMP, Photoshop or some other image processing software.

To a certain extent, your strategy should be tailored to the expectations of the list that you've built. For example, if people joined your list in response to a particular offer, follow up on that offer with 7 - 8 messages showing different aspects/features/benefits of your product/service over the course of a few weeks without confusing them with totally different offers. Only introduce other offers once you are sure that they have heard enough about the original offer to be able to make up their minds on whether or not to join/buy.

I suggest a combination of these two: http://dailynetpay.com/p/join/dogma1992 and http://www.allinoneprofits.com/otl And, whatever you choose to do, you'll need to spend time and/or money on advertising - there's no such thing as a free lunch! Good luck!

More at this time of year, peak pre-Christmas advertising season :-)