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Propaganda about TE's being DEAD.

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#1 Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 03:54 AM

I've been seeing, in a certain part of this arena, that they are saying "TE's are Dead" or that they "will be in a year" or "dying".


It is propaganda.


It's THAT part of the arena that has been squashed.


..."that part" meaning this closed off, cultish, small part of the arena that was separated from the real internet marketing world out there. Their followers follow every word of their teachers, webinars, false knowledge and even false history of how long they have been in business or the false level of success that they had in the online world before 2010-2016.


In those years, that part exploded in which alot of people moved from being affiliates of sites and programs...

to being sudden site owners and so everyone and their momma had a TE or a mailer.

But they werent told that having a carbon copy of a script, or even partially 'custom' modified, and competing with 1000 other sites .. that it would be an eventual problem. Believe me, it is NOT the first time it happened. A script has been sold to death before.


On the other end, people were also told to invest into trafficmonsoon, collect badges, collect coins, surf for pennies, and basically whatever made them money, they told their followers to do it - and they did because they had respect for them - based on FALSE history told, and/or schmoozing.


Back to the scripts:

The same site script being sold over and over again ... just with a different domain name, theme and graphics. Of course it was severely downgraded ALREADY before ppal and monsoon happened, in that part of the arena or "industry" as they call it.


It just made the scripts sellers, 'launch manager', badge and coin collecting sites, etc a lot of money.... then they use excuses such as: penny surfers, paypal, trafficmonsoon, to jump ship or blame the collapse on the very people who followed them and bought from them.

You know... "they dont embrace change", "they are just penny surfers", "they dont want to invest or learn", "offering money for surfing did it"..... etc...etc...


...while many ended up losing thousands a piece who bought into the propaganda (false info and teachings), mods, launch managers, follow my 'friends' new launch, etc.



What gets me is that its not dead in the real internet marketing world and straight up BS if anyone says it.


Is easyhits4u dead? Is Trafficadbar dead? Leadsleap? What about the others? Or even my own? No.

Still alive and kicking. They ARE traffic exchanges with or without variances.


So if someone who used to praise it galore and make tons of money off people teaching about it, suddenly says its dead and want you to go to crypto.... think long and hard about how they have abandoned that very thing they called themselves a teacher on (traffic exchanges) before doing it.


So... if someone else says its dead but viral mailers are the next it thing.... think long and hard on why the person who used to teach people and praise TE's... and sell those scripts... now want you to follow them into viral mailers (*cough* safelist in disguise). Think long and hard again because, I'm sorry, that has been around literally 20 years and has been the trend for - 20 years. It is NOT new.


Paypal didnt kill them. Trafficmonsoon didnt kill them, in which they actually benefited greatly from trafficmonsoon btw.

I saw it myself, I saw the webinar(s) with scoville that they had, and the biggie: Scoville told me himself how much they benefited.


Also. There is NO difference of a viral mailer to a safelist or a plain mailer, period. It's a ploy to make it sound special and something different from the usual email advertising safelist. They are not viral and nothing different. Stop spreading false words.


So again: TE is not dead. But the inexperienced teaching the inexperienced is.


Thanks for letting me scream.

-Maryanne Myers

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#2 redhat39


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Posted 02 July 2018 - 04:30 PM

I agree that TEs are not dead (although they aren't as effective as they used to be). The Paypal slam and the most recent Payza scandal have certainly taken a toll on traffic exchanges, safelists and mailers for sure. But the sites with seasoned and experienced admins will survive. If you visit Steve Aylings blog steveayling.com he has several posts addressing the slowdown of the exchange and mailer industry and what he thinks will make them rebound again.

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#3 Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 05:37 PM

On some yes, or maybe 1 or two actually.

I was just making a point that there is a whole different world other than that one small area. It is alive and well and has been for decades.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 03:55 PM

I have never believed that TE's were dead. I have only questioned their effectiveness. As someone else pointed out, their effectiveness has diminished. By how much, I can't really say. I think that part of it may relate to the idea that the market is glutted with the same script, methodology, and such. It is so bad that it has had an negativeeffect on the market. There has not been many who got creative and tried to make their sites stand out. Those that have will survive, those that do not will fail. The recent paypal and payza issues have not helped much and have been directly responsible for the demise of a number of TE's.


I have learned to try to branch out into other areas for my traffic generation. Stuff like social media, safelists, and other means are far more effective and less time consuming. The idea here is not to put "all of my eggs in one basket."

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#5 Kevin J Timothy

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 02:58 PM

I don't think that ANY form of advertising can be "dead."
Certain strategies can be, but not advertising.
Advertising is a required evil in business, and the more advertising - the better. Where traffic exchanges are concerned, I believe that the product one is promoting makes a difference. Promoting advertising tools seem to be the most effective in TEs. The less consistent the advertising (in TEs) the less effective they become. They are not dead, though. 

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 10:25 AM

All it takes to become a self-proclaimed expert is a keyboard and a connection. Don't listen to them, do your own testing.

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#7 Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 12:15 PM

Self proclaimed experts smudge how long they have been online and how successful they were.

I also forgot to mention the TE's, Trafficg and Clickvoyager. They are still alive too. But there are many many many out there.



Again, TE's are not dead, but it is in their best financial interest to tell people that they are dead.

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Posted 14 July 2018 - 08:39 PM

Thank you, Maryanne, for your very insightful rant (I mean that in a good way). I am a member of every one of your sites ( I think, you have so many it's hard to keep up with all of them) and being aware of your marketing history and the tremendous effort and expense you go to build, and update, your own scripts I am in awe of your stamina and expertise. I don't know how you do it but I'm glad you do!

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