Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I've been seeing, in a certain part of this arena, that they are saying "TE's are Dead" or that they "will be in a year" or "dying". It is propaganda. It's THAT part of the arena that has been squashed. ..."that part" meaning this closed off, cultish, small part of the arena that was separated from the real internet marketing world out there. Their followers follow every word of their teachers, webinars, false knowledge and even false history of how long they have been in business or the false level of success that they had in the online world before 2010-2016. In those years, that part exploded in which alot of people moved from being affiliates of sites and programs...to being sudden site owners and so everyone and their momma had a TE or a mailer.But they werent told that having a carbon copy of a script, or even partially 'custom' modified, and competing with 1000 other sites .. that it would be an eventual problem. Believe me, it is NOT the first time it happened. A script has been sold to death before. On the other end, people were also told to invest into trafficmonsoon, collect badges, collect coins, surf for pennies, and basically whatever made them money, they told their followers to do it - and they did because they had respect for them - based on FALSE history told, and/or schmoozing. Back to the scripts:The same site script being sold over and over again ... just with a different domain name, theme and graphics. Of course it was severely downgraded ALREADY before ppal and monsoon happened, in that part of the arena or "industry" as they call it. It just made the scripts sellers, 'launch manager', badge and coin collecting sites, etc a lot of money.... then they use excuses such as: penny surfers, paypal, trafficmonsoon, to jump ship or blame the collapse on the very people who followed them and bought from them.You know... "they dont embrace change", "they are just penny surfers", "they dont want to invest or learn", "offering money for surfing did it"..... etc...etc... ...while many ended up losing thousands a piece who bought into the propaganda (false info and teachings), mods, launch managers, follow my 'friends' new launch, etc. What gets me is that its not dead in the real internet marketing world and straight up BS if anyone says it. Is easyhits4u dead? Is Trafficadbar dead? Leadsleap? What about the others? Or even my own? No.Still alive and kicking. They ARE traffic exchanges with or without variances. So if someone who used to praise it galore and make tons of money off people teaching about it, suddenly says its dead and want you to go to crypto.... think long and hard about how they have abandoned that very thing they called themselves a teacher on (traffic exchanges) before doing it. So... if someone else says its dead but viral mailers are the next it thing.... think long and hard on why the person who used to teach people and praise TE's... and sell those scripts... now want you to follow them into viral mailers (*cough* safelist in disguise). Think long and hard again because, I'm sorry, that has been around literally 20 years and has been the trend for - 20 years. It is NOT new. Paypal didnt kill them. Trafficmonsoon didnt kill them, in which they actually benefited greatly from trafficmonsoon btw.I saw it myself, I saw the webinar(s) with scoville that they had, and the biggie: Scoville told me himself how much they benefited. Also. There is NO difference of a viral mailer to a safelist or a plain mailer, period. It's a ploy to make it sound special and something different from the usual email advertising safelist. They are not viral and nothing different. Stop spreading false words. So again: TE is not dead. But the inexperienced teaching the inexperienced is. Thanks for letting me scream.-Maryanne Myers Clare Bowen, jmwheatley, gnana and 1 other 4 Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat39 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 I agree that TEs are not dead (although they aren't as effective as they used to be). The Paypal slam and the most recent Payza scandal have certainly taken a toll on traffic exchanges, safelists and mailers for sure. But the sites with seasoned and experienced admins will survive. If you visit Steve Aylings blog steveayling.com he has several posts addressing the slowdown of the exchange and mailer industry and what he thinks will make them rebound again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 On some yes, or maybe 1 or two actually.I was just making a point that there is a whole different world other than that one small area. It is alive and well and has been for decades. Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsmith Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I have never believed that TE's were dead. I have only questioned their effectiveness. As someone else pointed out, their effectiveness has diminished. By how much, I can't really say. I think that part of it may relate to the idea that the market is glutted with the same script, methodology, and such. It is so bad that it has had an negativeeffect on the market. There has not been many who got creative and tried to make their sites stand out. Those that have will survive, those that do not will fail. The recent paypal and payza issues have not helped much and have been directly responsible for the demise of a number of TE's. I have learned to try to branch out into other areas for my traffic generation. Stuff like social media, safelists, and other means are far more effective and less time consuming. The idea here is not to put "all of my eggs in one basket." davidlee 1 Quote Free Video Chat Service! Get Connected And Stay Connected!Click Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin J Timothy Posted July 6, 2018 Report Share Posted July 6, 2018 I don't think that ANY form of advertising can be "dead." Certain strategies can be, but not advertising. Advertising is a required evil in business, and the more advertising - the better. Where traffic exchanges are concerned, I believe that the product one is promoting makes a difference. Promoting advertising tools seem to be the most effective in TEs. The less consistent the advertising (in TEs) the less effective they become. They are not dead, though. Bruno Duarte 1 Quote I get super high on this tree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuddy Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 All it takes to become a self-proclaimed expert is a keyboard and a connection. Don't listen to them, do your own testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Self proclaimed experts smudge how long they have been online and how successful they were.I also forgot to mention the TE's, Trafficg and Clickvoyager. They are still alive too. But there are many many many out there. Again, TE's are not dead, but it is in their best financial interest to tell people that they are dead. Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidlee Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Thank you, Maryanne, for your very insightful rant (I mean that in a good way). I am a member of every one of your sites ( I think, you have so many it's hard to keep up with all of them) and being aware of your marketing history and the tremendous effort and expense you go to build, and update, your own scripts I am in awe of your stamina and expertise. I don't know how you do it but I'm glad you do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Thank you, Maryanne, for your very insightful rant (I mean that in a good way). I am a member of every one of your sites ( I think, you have so many it's hard to keep up with all of them) and being aware of your marketing history and the tremendous effort and expense you go to build, and update, your own scripts I am in awe of your stamina and expertise. I don't know how you do it but I'm glad you do! Thank you for saying that ! It reminds me to keep at it and why (working on the sites so hard). Stamina: coffee... all day all night... constant huge supply... and a ton of vitamins haha Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impressmemedia Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Great post! Your 50 a day is good. TrafficAdbar. LeadsLeap. Good. Their results impressed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryanne Myers -Webstars2K Posted August 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 Great post! Your 50 a day is good. TrafficAdbar. LeadsLeap. Good. Their results impressed me. Thank You!! :-)(and glad you like 50aday too Quote PHP Programmer - Internet Marketer - Web Designer - Advertising Network OwnerCelebrating 22 years in business - Since 1998https://webstars2k.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnana Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 I am getting solid results from TEs such as TrafficAdbar, LeadsLeap, Listsurfing, etc. I don't see such good sites disappearing anytime soon. Quote Get Guaranteed Traffic at Ads Messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weblord Posted May 1, 2019 Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 t.e.'s are not dead, you just need to know how to use them effectively. They work good if your ad is good, there are lots of freebies online that can make your ads look good, such as autoresponders, splash pages, capture pages, use them liberally to your advantage but don't expect overnight success with t.e.'s or you'll be frustrated this is something branding can do for you, you need to repeat it over and over again, the rule of marketing stays the same see them 7 times and they'll signup, you need to display your ad numerous times to the same people until they signup. problem is they might be already there in that program, you need to introduce new programs to them. Quote pls read my blog | Unlimited Domains with Unlimited WebHosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Duarte Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 I don't think that ANY form of advertising can be "dead." Certain strategies can be, but not advertising. Advertising is a required evil in business, and the more advertising - the better. Where traffic exchanges are concerned, I believe that the product one is promoting makes a difference. Promoting advertising tools seem to be the most effective in TEs. The less consistent the advertising (in TEs) the less effective they become. They are not dead, though. Well said Kevin! Quote http://thedreamlifestyleforyou.com/images/468x60-a6.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weblord Posted May 15, 2019 Report Share Posted May 15, 2019 nothing's dead. we are basically using the same ad as i've started long ago in the internet business since 1995 here in the philippines, we need to improvise, we need to add more flavors and more attractions. creativity in the part of the merchant has a huge role here. Quote pls read my blog | Unlimited Domains with Unlimited WebHosting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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