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I'm curious to know if there is any update on this situation. Because I still haven't heard anyone else complain of non-payment by this owner. Just in the last few days, I've connected with him via support desk and found Greg Parkin to be very helpful and definitely not an unresponsive owner. Quite the opposite.

You've really helped me a lot.. I didn't forget your mention of the Efficient Lady's Organizer. Suddenly as new admin in a TE, I have all these events lined up, some over a few days, some recurring, and some beginning as far in the distance as July. The information that I've been given, and keep getting given, seems so well suited for your digital organizer, its quite uncanny lol. I would be lost, so thank you! so much

Someone had written in this forum before, that the words that you use in your marketing are important. This morning, my kids gave me good reason to think (as they often do). I was saying that I'm going to start a new rewards system for their homework completion, and my son (8 years old), said,,, "ohhh, I love a good bribe" That kind of put me off, and I thought, I'll rather punish if the work is not done And then I was stuck in the traffic and as usual, most of my thinking gets done in traffic jams I've seen splash pages and email ads that say they will bribe you to join their site (usually a traffic site) with credits or whatever. And the impression it gives me is that I'm going to do something wrong or unpleasant in return for some free stuff. And then, there are ads that say they will "reward" you for joining, and these I find hard to resist. There's a site called Rewards4Surfing, and I wonder what impression the same site would give if it was called Bribes4Surfing And so I think too much But to me its a classic example of how even one word that is meant to represent the same thing, can impact on results in marketing.

We have indeed been blessed with support from our team, and also the surfing, marketing community in general has been great The enthusiasm for such a new site is really awesome and many have brought in new members, some more than me Thanks Tommie!

Bienvinedo Luis! Welcome!

500 members today We're growing fast

Bravo! Congratulations, and many thanks to you, Tommie and all the members who make this such a great place for learning and making friends

That's awesome, thank you Andy! I've added some bonus credits to your account, so that you can use them to promote your team

Thanks so much Tommie. Yep, that's the plan

I mean not buying upgrades, credits etc

You're so right, yes, this is often exactly what happens. To a more savvy owner, free members are also valuable in their own way though. "Just because people are not spending money on a site, it doesn't mean that they're not spending money online".

Thank you Andro for promoting Tweetyfied-Surf

Promote advertising sites. If you can wait for payout (anything from a week to a month), any new advertising site that has an affiliate program. If you know you have good reach, then upgrade first, recover your cost and the rest is profit. Sites with yearly or lifetime OTOs that are low priced are good sellers. This usually works for me.

Good old trial and error, great post Tommie! Definition of trial and error : a finding out of the best way to reach a desired result or a correct solution by trying out one or more ways or means and by noting and eliminating errors or causes of failure; also : the trying of one thing or another until something succeeds https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trial%20and%20error

Yes, the script is very cheap, but its very basic. Apps cost money, and even the things that a surfer would take for granted, have to be purchased. Plus games and awards to attract and keep members. People have many choices of where to surf and advertise, and will simply go away if a site isn't interesting enough. Cheats are rife and need to be controlled. Either an owner needs to put in quite a lot of capital to start, or start basic and keep the money earned, and (aside from paying commissions), turn the profit back into the site to develop it. I've just started to help a friend admin her new site, and this is what I've discovered. Buying an established TE with all these things added is much better value it seems, especially since there seem to be a fair amount of them recently on the market, but they come with their own problems.

So far, this complaint is still the only one I've heard of that claims that this owner doesn't pay.

At the risk of sounding like grandma, I remember the days when I would join any viral mailer that I wasn't a member of yet. I actually had a radar on for them, and even used google once or twice Agreed

To state the obvious I guess, every time we promote any membership site as an affiliate, we're building someone's list. Maybe one of the best ways to build one then is to have a site with any useful free product, tools, traffic etc. I noticed Carl Bailey getting very irate in his mails though today. I guess someone or some people had reported his admin mails as spam.

It took me a really long time to decide to build a list. I just look at my email inbox and all the stuff that people send me, mostly affiliate toolbox copy, some up to 3 or 4 times a day, and it put me off the whole concept. But anyway, about a year and a half ago, I wrote a 7 day e-course targeted to traffic exchange users, and rotated a self made squeeze page around some sites. I gathered an average of 3 subscribers per day. Then I got involved with my zubee team, and stopped. I started to use my autoresponder to send update emails to my team, and I realize now, stupidly I guess, deleted the other list, and my e-course and squeeze page. I'll never use the list of my team members though to promote my things, I promised them that I wouldn't. I'd need to start from scratch again. I can definitely see the value in building a list, but I think that the way the subscribers are treated is important. Building a huge list of people who don't have a clue who you are, and bombarding them with spammy type subjects is not really the way to go. I feel that those people are potentially creating a negative reputation for themselves. Some people have a really bad style. Building my list is on my to-do list for the coming months :-)

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Yes, you were my referral there actually, top upgrade, I remember. I'm very sorry to hear that you were treated so badly. I have a situation with Action Mails, which was owned by Leigh Ann Little. She was a great admin, and I was top upgraded there with over 100 referrals, some still spending money, when the site seems to have gone down (I was offline for some months), and then when it came back under a new owner. My account was wiped from the database. The new owner said that he couldn't restore my account and that I'd have to sign up again for a new one. I decided not to. Intelligent of them, I like that

Awesome as always This has given me a lot to think about, thank you

Perhaps the situation with some marketers, is that, the more urgent immediate income is for them, the less time they will take to build their businesses properly.

I have a friend, who I haven't seen in a long time. He was a good team member of ours, but openly admitted that he's only surfing so that his mother-in-law sees that he is busy "working". Its a pity that he didn't stick it out though, because he's a unique, talented and intelligent young man. When he did start to work in some directions, with good programs, he was able to grasp the concepts quickly and produce great campaigns. Then one day he told me its summer holidays in his country and he'd be offline for some months. We haven't seen him since Great post